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Title: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 18, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
So far there are 7 versions of the DS4 controller PCB.

The JDM-001 (1-889-300-11 (Blue PCB) or 1-889-300-21 (Green PCB)) is the first version I've seen.

TOP
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/1-889-300-21Top.jpg)

BOTTOM
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/1-889-300-21Bottom.jpg)

The JDS-001 board, aka USB/LED board.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-001g%20Top.jpg)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-001g%20Bottom.jpg)

Vias for the buttons of the JDM-001 (NOTE: The PCB is the Blue version here, but the Blue and the Green boards are identical in this respect)

NOTES on button layout, applies to all versions so far..

The D-pad, Cross, Circle, Square and Triangle buttons are active Lo. Connecting them to any Ground spot will make them work.

The L1 and R1 are Active Hi, and have to be connected to the 3.2v line to activate.

The L2 and R2 are PWM and should connect to the 2L and 2R spots respectively if they are to be duplicated.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/DS4buttonpin.jpg)


Then the JDM-011 (1-893-557-21 or 1-893-557-31) is the second one I've seen. It's a little smaller width wise and has some things moved around, but is pretty much the same thing. The USB/LED board (not pictured yet) is redone so there are 2 less wires on the connector. The shell has also been changed for the smaller PCB, so a 1:1 swap can't be done without some modification to this version shell if installing one of the older wider boards.

TOP
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-0111-893-557-31Top.jpg)

BOTTOM
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/1-893-557-21Bottom.jpg)

The JDS-011 board, aka USB/LED board.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-011%20Top.jpg)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-011%20Bottom.jpg)


Vias for the buttons of the JDM-011

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-011%20Buttons.jpg)


The JDM-020 (1-893-899-11) is the latest revision. They seem to have ditched the Fujitsu ARM for a Freescale one and finally started to use blind vias.

TOP
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-0201-893-899-11Top.jpg)

BOTTOM
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-0201-893-899-11Bottom.jpg)

NOTE: Because the JDM-020 uses blind vias, I'll need to have one of these to tear down and see about the best spots for duplicate buttons and such.

Well, here are the X, O, /\ and [ ] Vias. Don't say I didn't warn ya. ;)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-020%20Top%20Buttons.jpg)

The X and /\ buttons can be found on the bottom of the PCB, but O and [ ] are top only.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-020%20Bottom%20CRS%20TRI.jpg)


New DS4 version board (mid/late July 2015) This thing has had a pretty decent change made to the shell and the Daughter board layout. The Daughter board has been split into a 2 piece design now and connects on the sides of the mother board versus the middle as every previous version has. The core way of how the controller works hasn't changed though.

JDM-030 (1-980-146-11)

TOP
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-030%201-980-146-11%20Top.jpg)

BOTTOM
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-030%201-980-146-11%20Bottom.jpg)

The JDS-030 board, aka USB/LED board.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-030%20Top.jpg)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-030%20Bottom.jpg)

Here are the X, O, /\ and [ ] Vias for the JDM-030.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-030%201-980-146-11%20Buttons.jpg)


Latest DS4 version board for the Slim console (mid September 2016) Again with a change made to the shell and the Daughter board layout. The Daughter board has gone back to a single piece design (not interchangeable with older versions) and it connects around the top left of the board versus the middle.

When my other board arrives, I'll remove the ARM to see if there is a via for Square button. The Cross, Circle and Triangle buttons have them for sure, but you'll only get 1 shot at them, and if you're not up for that small work, I designed the SFX-040, so no soldering is required on the controller PCB at all. - https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44001.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44001.0.html)

JDM-040 (1-981-330-31)

TOP
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-040%201-981-330-31%20Top.jpg)

BOTTOM
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-040%201-981-330-31%20Bottom.jpg)

The JDS-040 board, aka USB/LED board.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-040%20Top.jpg)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-040%20Bottom.jpg)

Here are the X, O, /\ and [ ] Vias for the JDM-040.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-040 1-981-330-31_Vias.jpg)

JDM-050 (1-982-355-11 and 1-982-355-21)

TOP
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-050%201-982-355-11%20Top.jpg)

BOTTOM
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-050%201-982-355-11%20Bottom.jpg)

The JDS-050 board, aka USB/LED board.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-050%20Top.jpg)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-050%20Bottom.jpg)


JDM-055 (1-982-707-11, 1-982-707-22, 1-982-707-31, 1-982-707-32, 1-982-707-81) 
1-982-707-31 Schematic - https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44645.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44645.0.html)

TOP
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-055%201-982-707-31%20Top.jpg)

BOTTOM
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-055%201-982-707-31%20Bottom.jpg)

The JDS-055 board, aka USB/LED board.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-055%20Top.jpg)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDS/JDS-055%20Bottom.jpg)

Vias locations for the X, O, /\, [ ] and D-Pad buttons. JDM-050 shown here, but the JDM-055 spots are in the identical locations, even though the board is slightly different. Any ground spot can be used for the common connection.

NOTE: Be aware though, if the via is ruined in the process, repairing the controller will be extremely difficult if not impossible. The SFX-040 that was made for the JDM-040 version (above) will also work on the -050 and -055 versions here if you're not wanting to risk it. ;)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-050_055_Vias.jpg)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-050_055_Vias_D.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Viking360 on October 06, 2014, 08:27:53 PM
RDC,

There is an easier way to designate the PCB's.  For the first version if you remove the barcode you will see "JDM-001".  The second version in your post would be "JDM-011".  And back in the beginning of August someone send me a PS4 controller that was a JDM-020 revision.  If they keep with this labeling it might be easier to communicate revisions based on that code (even though it's obscured by the barcode sticker on the JDM-001's).

As usual thanks for going through the trouble of sharing with everyone.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on October 07, 2014, 02:37:26 AM
The JDM number is also on the top side of the PCB as well. The larger number was only used as it's right there when the bottom of the shell is taken off and easy to see. I wouldn't solely go on either number at the moment until there are more versions out for comparison, the larger one is just where I've started labeling them for now.

Welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: MuSiC__ on October 31, 2014, 11:52:17 PM
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fj5cid2fwf%2FFront_JDM020.jpg&hash=89915387a488a52290742229a83edbaff175286e) (http://postimg.org/image/j5cid2fwf/)







(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs23.postimg.org%2Fhi8bmk6iv%2FBack_JDM020.jpg&hash=db0ad304b749627cb05ecac56e60e1ef244ca3c6) (http://postimg.org/image/hi8bmk6iv/)


Here is a couple of 20 mb pics of the JDM-020, hopefully they look ok for you guys.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: hotburn7 on November 08, 2014, 09:24:04 AM
Hello guys,

I search the X and O mapping for the board JDM-020! Help me Please :fear:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TOicAD on January 19, 2015, 03:07:33 AM
Hello guys,

I search the X and O mapping for the board JDM-020! Help me Please :fear:

I have the same problem, I usually welding wire contacts flex pcb, but gives poor results.
sorry for my English I am using a translator
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 19, 2015, 04:37:47 AM
The JDM-020 uses blind vias, so until one is sacrificed, that is stripped of some of it's parts (mainly the MCU) and possibly some layers sanded down as well to tell where everything is actually at, no one has that information.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TOicAD on February 11, 2015, 12:35:55 AM
The JDM-020 uses blind vias, so until one is sacrificed, that is stripped of some of it's parts (mainly the MCU) and possibly some layers sanded down as well to tell where everything is actually at, no one has that information.

where I send a motherboard jdm-020? so you can explore the points?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 11, 2015, 12:55:53 AM
You can PM me about that possibility.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 21, 2015, 05:51:25 AM
Thread updated for all that have been asking about the X and O locations of the JDM-020. Don't look for any on the bottom of the PCB, there aren't any except for X and /\. Sony has started using blind vias and vias in pads on this and I'm sure later versions of the controller, probably some buried vias as well in there.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: joypad_junk87 on October 25, 2015, 03:19:04 AM
hey there.
did anyone know where i can find the 3 led tp spots , from the lightbar, on the jdm-001 board?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on October 25, 2015, 03:37:50 AM
Nope, because it doesn't have them.

You'll have to use the Transistors, Resistors or leads at the connector.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: joypad_junk87 on October 25, 2015, 06:36:39 AM
Wow. Thanks for the fast answer.
Oh. I' ve feared about that. :beg:
Did you know, if the jmd number  is anywhere to find on a new controller Case or the packIng? Or is there a year of bulid, which says more about the jdm?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on October 25, 2015, 08:37:25 AM
I've never really bothered to look into that, as it was never the case with the PS3 controllers, so I doubt anything has changed there and you'd always get a this or that version. Pretty much anything you get new now will be an -020 or -030 though, unless you're getting your controllers from some place that only sells one every year or so and just has crazy old stock as I haven't seen a new -001 since the PS4 came out.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: joypad_junk87 on October 25, 2015, 10:21:10 PM
Ok thanks a lot.   :hifive:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on October 25, 2015, 11:00:27 PM
Welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Itamiko on December 25, 2015, 12:11:26 PM
Hi Everyone!

First of all, Merry Christmas and some nice free days!

I got a short question about the JBL-001 mod. I havent found a documentation on the layout of a "ground spot". Anyone out there, that could help me with this question? Is it possible to connect it in an similar way to the 011  Version?

Thank in advance and cheers,
Chris
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 26, 2015, 12:26:10 AM
No clue what your JBL-001 mod is.

Ground is everywhere inside the controller, just use any of the 8 mounting lugs for the sticks, the battery - side, or any number of places that a DMM and a few seconds of poking around on Ohms will turn up.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Itamiko on December 27, 2015, 02:30:25 AM
Hi and thanks for your reply :)
I just opened all of my 3 controllers, and "taadaaa" 3 different version :D jdm 001, 011 and 020
Which one is the easiest for you? I'd say the 011 ?!

I'll take the mounting soldering points of the analog sticks i guess then though they aren't soldered well.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: i7vSa7vi7y on January 12, 2016, 11:56:54 AM
For LEDs on the 030 can I just solder on the + battery contact and ground on the analog? That's 3.7v right?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 12, 2016, 12:19:23 PM
You can, but then your LEDs will be on ALL of the time. Also, the battery voltage will be ~4.2v while it's charging and vary from that to 3v or so. This is the least recommended way to power your LEDs from the controller as the power source is not regulated (stays at a specific voltage) and it is on all of the time since it's just a battery. Even if you were to use a switch in that circuit so you could determine when the LEDs were on/off, you still have the voltage issue.

There is a dedicated 3.2v source in there that powers pretty much everything that you should use for your LEDs instead. The voltage stays at 3.2v and it turns on/off (is switched) with the controller, so your LEDs would as well. The easiest place to get the 3.2v is the 2 outside leads of any one of the Sticks POTs, the row of 3 solder joints. One outside lead is Ground, the other is 3.2v, and you're done.

If you are looking at the bottom of the controller..

Code: [Select]

+ = 3.2v
- = Ground
X = X-axis
Y = Y-axis
L = L3
R = R3
O = Solder Lugs (these are also Ground)

     Right Stick              Left Stick

        + X -                    + X -
      O       O                O       O
 +  R           -         +  L           -
                Y                        Y
 +  R           +         +  L           +
      O       O                O       O
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: i7vSa7vi7y on January 12, 2016, 01:06:40 PM
Thank you!!!! That's an excellent diagram by the way. I didn't think about the charging issue.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: i7vSa7vi7y on January 19, 2016, 08:10:32 AM
So to install a tact button where does the other wire go? One goes to X an the other to your button. Then do you just ground your button? I remember on PS3 there was a tp point.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 19, 2016, 10:35:31 AM
It Depends on the button you are wanting to duplicate.

The DS3 used a COM line setup that was pretty screwed up. The DS4 here uses more common setups.

For the D-pad and all face buttons, they are active Lo, they go to Ground to activate.

For the L1, R1, L3 and R3, they are active Hi, they go to 3.2v to activate.

For L2 and R2 they each have their own PWM line.

So X and Ground = X
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: i7vSa7vi7y on January 19, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
Ok awesome. I'm starting to like the DS4's a lot better.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: heipp123 on January 26, 2016, 08:06:47 AM
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Fmgvcc11in%2Fquestino.jpg&hash=20b9486af957f18898a471d7429790488da34e0b) (http://postimg.org/image/mgvcc11in/)


what are these components name and value thanks.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 26, 2016, 09:00:24 AM
In the left circle, the 2 vertical components are Resistors, 10k, 0402. The horizontal one is also a Resistor, 0ohm, 0603.

In the right circle, the top component is an NPN Transistor, marking is KKB and you'll have to hunt for it. The bottom one is a Resistor, 1M, 0402.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: heipp123 on January 26, 2016, 09:11:10 AM
In the left circle, the 2 vertical components are Resistors, 10k, 0402. The horizontal one is also a Resistor, 0ohm, 0603.

In the right circle, the top component is an NPN Transistor, marking is KKB and you'll have to hunt for it. The bottom one is a Resistor, 1M, 0402.


excellent thank you and have nice day.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Lotus.2 on February 01, 2016, 02:23:40 PM
Hey guys I hope someone can help me.
I have the JDM 030.
I tried to weld the wire onto the board (O-Button). But now every time i connect the controller to the ps4 und push the thumbstick in any direction the controller will go back in the menu. How can i solve this problem?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 01, 2016, 02:28:31 PM
Start off with undoing whatever you did in there, and then seeing how the controller acts.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Lotus.2 on February 01, 2016, 02:30:06 PM
same thing.
if there is no wire welded onto the board the same problem occurs.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 01, 2016, 02:37:29 PM
If the controller worked before, then the issue is where you were poking around in there. Post some good pics of your board.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Lotus.2 on February 01, 2016, 02:44:28 PM

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Frcmnvnyqn%2FIMG_3815.jpg&hash=47c5a6d7cd95ef1ad652d31a95d20779b0368011) (http://postimg.org/image/rcmnvnyqn/)
here is the pic
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 01, 2016, 02:48:58 PM
You have a solder bridge from the O via to Ground, so it's acting like O is constantly being pressed.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Lotus.2 on February 01, 2016, 02:51:51 PM
oh...
how can i solve this problem?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 01, 2016, 02:54:43 PM
Remove that solder off of there with some braid and a bit of flux.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Lotus.2 on February 01, 2016, 02:59:47 PM
ok thank you. ill try that tomorrow.
could you please tell me how you found out that this is the problem?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 01, 2016, 03:12:17 PM
I can see the short in your pic. More so, O is back. You have O shorted and and issue where it's going back.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Lotus.2 on February 04, 2016, 04:20:12 PM
Thank you very much for your help.
I could fix the controller the way you told me.
 :hifive:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 04, 2016, 04:58:40 PM
Welcome
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: famicom89 on February 10, 2016, 04:01:48 PM
Hi, I'm making a "hitbox" fightstick with JDM-030 board and was wondering, can I simply solder wires on the graphite-like contacts on the sides of the pcb, connect those same wires to my sanwa buttons and connect the other terminal to GND (or Vcc)?
Can I encounter any problems by doing so?

thanks in advance
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 10, 2016, 05:12:09 PM
Yes and No.

You'll need to gently remove the coating from the contacts first to expose the copper pad, then you can solder to it.

The DS4 uses 3 different button configurations also, so you'll need to wire up all of your buttons accordingly and install a couple of Resistors to take the place of the existing Daughter boards that will no longer be installed.


The D-pad, X, O, [ ] and /\ buttons all use Ground for their common. Also the PS, Touchpad, Share and Option buttons use Ground for common.

The L1, R1, L3 and R3 buttons all use 3.2v as the common.

The L2 and R2 are where it gets to be a little more work. First you'll need to install a Pull-Up Resistor from 3.2v to the L2 and R2 lines, one for each side. The value is ~7.5k, but 10k will work just as well in this case. Then you'll connect your new L2 and R2 buttons wires to the L2/2L spots for L2, and R2/2R spots for R2.

If you have the room, just leave the Sticks installed on the board, as you don't want to tear up any traces there and have that mess to deal with.


(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-030%201-980-146-11%20Top%20ARCADE.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: famicom89 on February 11, 2016, 12:33:39 AM
Thanks for marking the correct buttons contacts on the image.

The L2 and R2 are where it gets to be a little more work. First you'll need to install a Pull-Up Resistor from 3.2v to the L2 and R2 lines, one for each side. The exact value is 7.5k, but 10k will work just as well in this case. Then you'll connect your new L2 and R2 buttons wires to the L2/2L spots for L2, and R2/2R spots for R2.
I read that L2 and R2 are active-high, so I thought to make inverters with BJTs for those lines, but if a pull-up resistor works fine I'll do that instead.

If you have the room, just leave the Sticks installed on the board, as you don't want to tear up any traces there and have that mess to deal with.
Yeah, I think I'll just glue those in place so they won't get in the way while playing.
Also, for touchpad button, do you recommend soldering the wires on the old button's contacts on the upper layer? They seem to stick out quite a bit from the sides of the button
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 11, 2016, 03:29:33 AM
The L2/R2 are not active Hi at all, in fact they are better described as active Lo, but even that is technically incorrect as they are a little more complicated than that.

Yes, I'd solder to the existing Touchpad button leads. In that pic, the bottom set of leads are for the Touchpad, the top set are just Ground.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Omario123 on March 18, 2016, 01:26:08 AM
Hello Guys, So I'm starting to get really good at modifying Xbox one controllers. Recently, I bought a PS4 console sometime around February 25th. It was a new model and as I looked through the PCB scans and looking at my exposed PS4 PCB, I determined that it was the TH201 model. With both the X and O trace points being tightly located by the battery connector. I used my Xacto knife to expose them perfectly. I was able to see the copper of both traces. I saw a youtube video by "The Electronic Truth" that stated that the X ground was on the bottom right side of the controller and the O ground was on the bottom left side of the controller, so I used (KOOCU, 63Sn, 37pb, 0.3mm) solder on the trace points and attached one wire to each trace point. Then I also attached wires to their individual grounds making sure that I did not make any mistakes with the wire order. The X ground was paired with the X trace point and the O ground was paired with the O trace point. Then all 4 wires were split into two pairs. 2 wires went to the X tactile switch, 2 other wires went to the O tactile switch. The 2 wires of each pair were hooked up on the same side of the tactile switch. I put the controller together and turned on the PS4, neither tactile switches worked and the X face button wasn't working while the the O face button did. I usually never stop practicing even if failure occurs. So I opened up my controller and un-soldered every wire inside, basically making it an untouched PS4 controller except for the copper bare trace points. Then I put it back together and everything worked 100% fine. I just can't seem to understand what I am doing wrong.


(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2Fh2igkku17%2FTH201_Back_Upload.jpg&hash=9c0af566d7cc83d077bbe987fa4be94a9b50b2bb) (http://postimg.org/image/h2igkku17/)



(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2Fkwj2tiiwl%2FController_Back.jpg&hash=6d7bf6a28c11423051989490558cd924b8a91d0e) (http://postimg.org/image/kwj2tiiwl/)



(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs16.postimg.org%2Fvv3zmkqe9%2FTac.jpg&hash=c437137996585b9c65991b1704b0e194a57c9c57) (http://postimg.org/image/vv3zmkqe9/)



(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs13.postimg.org%2Fl9kwkdi4j%2FSolder.jpg&hash=349be0687e4358a7c7168c5f54f8b532165bb3c7) (http://postimg.org/image/l9kwkdi4j/)



(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2Fqwa1ol42l%2FWrapping_Wire.jpg&hash=37c6a77ae06defdb2d61a215ca1fd3e45aa974c7) (http://postimg.org/image/qwa1ol42l/)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 18, 2016, 03:28:00 AM
Without good pictures of the board in question, one can only guess, and my guess would be you had X shorted to Ground, then O wasn't connected at all. The ground plane is all around the X and O vias, so it's not difficult to scrape some of the mask away and cause a short there when soldering the wire on it, just read thru this entire thread. With X shorted at the solder joint you made, the original X would not work, then removing the short restored it.

There is also no such thing as an X ground and an O ground, the real electronic truth is, ground is ground. Those are simply the solder lugs for the sticks that happen to be connect to ground.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Omario123 on March 18, 2016, 02:35:57 PM
I didnt feel like reopening my PS4 controller to take a look but thank you for trying to help. Is it possible that you could tell me how to wire everything step by step in the most dumbed down words possible?  For the X and O buttons.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 18, 2016, 09:55:10 PM
If it's a JDM-030, then the easiest way to do duplicate buttons is to not solder on the controller at all.

https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43753.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43753.0.html)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Omario123 on March 18, 2016, 11:37:31 PM
Does the JDM-030 pcb fit all controllers? And if so, how do you use those flexes that you designed. Like where do you attach everything?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 19, 2016, 04:19:02 AM
The JDM-030 is just one of the DS4 PCB revisions, and only fits in a shell made for a JDM-030, look thru the beginning of this thread for the different revisions.

The SFX that I designed there works only on the JDM-030, and it just goes between the PCB and it's daughter boards, the same way that the RemappeD does. - https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43790.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43790.0.html)

With the SFX installed, then you can solder to the much larger and easier pads on it, versus doing the more difficult, and possibly risky, prepping and soldering to the small Vias on the actual board.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Camme on March 22, 2016, 11:29:57 AM
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2F9lu8xo867%2FJDM_020_Top_Buttons_zpsn2gecy47.jpg&hash=e63cebfd68f5891e24bc163e576fb1489ba4ecd2) (http://postimg.org/image/9lu8xo867/)

Hi guys, i want to know the value of this resistance. Thanks.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 22, 2016, 02:15:24 PM
27ohm, 0402
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Camme on March 22, 2016, 03:26:07 PM
Is it the same value for the model JDM-011 ? Thanks.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 22, 2016, 03:41:25 PM
This might be a good time to get yourself a cheap DMM and find out that it is.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Camme on March 23, 2016, 12:39:43 AM
I haven't this resistance so i can't test it. I will try with the 27 ohm. Thanks  :victory:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 23, 2016, 01:29:08 AM
I already told you it was 27ohm, so you do have the value to test against any other Resistor you want. That pair there are both 27ohm and are in the USB data lines.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: stratoside on July 07, 2016, 12:04:50 AM
You can, but then your LEDs will be on ALL of the time. Also, the battery voltage will be ~4.2v while it's charging and vary from that to 3v or so. This is the least recommended way to power your LEDs from the controller as the power source is not regulated (stays at a specific voltage) and it is on all of the time since it's just a battery. Even if you were to use a switch in that circuit so you could determine when the LEDs were on/off, you still have the voltage issue.

There is a dedicated 3.2v source in there that powers pretty much everything that you should use for your LEDs instead. The voltage stays at 3.2v and it turns on/off (is switched) with the controller, so your LEDs would as well. The easiest place to get the 3.2v is the 2 outside leads of any one of the Sticks POTs, the row of 3 solder joints. One outside lead is Ground, the other is 3.2v, and you're done.

If you are looking at the bottom of the controller..

Code: [Select]

+ = 3.2v
- = Ground
X = X-axis
Y = Y-axis
L = L3
R = R3
O = Solder Lugs (these are also Ground)

     Right Stick              Left Stick

        + X -                    + X -
      O       O                O       O
 +  R           -         +  L           -
                Y                        Y
 +  R           +         +  L           +
      O       O                O       O

Hello,
first of all, thank you for the explanation on which pins give ~3v when the controller is on

I was wondering if this would work at all?

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1262.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fii608%2Fstratoside%2F20160707_025843_zpsqdtjn5fc.jpg&hash=cd4ac3603c51648bbd3a9da3a75c166b0593611c) (http://s1262.photobucket.com/user/stratoside/media/20160707_025843_zpsqdtjn5fc.jpg.html)

I plan on using 9 LEDs to light up 9 buttons (d pad, symbols, triggers and the PS button) for my project
and I was wondering if the ~3volt from the spots you have mentioned would be enough to power 9x3v leds?
I was planning on using 100 ohm resistors in parallel

or should I split the LED by having the Right stick power 4 LED while the Left stick power 5 LEDs? (if that matters at all)

thanks
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 07, 2016, 02:13:07 AM
It's a regulated 3.2v source, so it's 3.2v, and using one stick or both for power it would be the same.

As to it working or not, the schematic is correct, but LEDs are current driven devices, not voltage, once the fV of the LED is met that is.

Without knowing the specs of your LEDs there, you could be drawing too much current from that source and cause the controller to not work. I personally wouldn't draw any more than 100mA from there total, which gives you more than 10mA per LED to drive them, and if they aren't bright enough at 10mA, then you should get some better LEDs, as you really only need 5mA or less to light up some decent LEDs good.

If your LEDs voltage is rated at the mentioned 3v, then with 100ohm Resistors on each you'll get around 2.2mA per LED, which is fine, but without knowing the current rating of them it's impossible to say how bright they may be driven with that amount.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: stratoside on July 07, 2016, 02:24:21 AM
It's a regulated 3.2v source, so it's 3.2v, and using one stick or both for power it would be the same.

As to it working or not, the schematic is correct, but LEDs are current driven devices, not voltage, once the fV of the LED is met that is.

Without knowing the specs of your LEDs there, you could be drawing too much current from that source and cause the controller to not work. I personally wouldn't draw any more than 100mA from there total, which gives you more than 10mA per LED to drive them, and if they aren't bright enough at 10mA, then you should get some better LEDs, as you really only need 5mA or less to light up some decent LEDs good.

If your LEDs voltage is rated at the mentioned 3v, then with 100ohm Resistors on each you'll get around 2.2mA per LED, which is fine, but without knowing the current rating of them it's impossible to say how bright they may be driven with that amount.

I believe they are rated for 20mA each, i will try playing around with 10 or 1 ohm resistors if 100ohm dims it too much

Thanks for the reply
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 07, 2016, 02:28:13 AM
That's the max rating then, so they should be OK looking at the 2mA or so.

If you were to use a 1ohm they'll fry.

Using 10ohm and they'll get 22mA per, which will be as bright as they can be and shorten their life span, which would also draw 198mA from the source.

Using 47ohm would get you 5mA per LED.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: stratoside on July 07, 2016, 02:43:25 AM
Yes and No.

You'll need to first gently remove the coating from the contacts first to expose the copper pad, then you can solder to it.

The DS4 uses 3 different button configurations also, so you'll need to wire up all of your buttons accordingly and install a couple of Resistors to take the place of the existing Daughter boards that will no longer be installed.


The D-pad, X, O, [ ] and /\ buttons all use Ground for their common. Also the PS, Touchpad, Share and Option buttons use Ground for common.

The L1, R1, L3 and R3 buttons all use 3.2v as the common.

The L2 and R2 are where it gets to be a little more work. First you'll need to install a Pull-Up Resistor from 3.2v to the L2 and R2 lines, one for each side. The value is ~7.5k, but 10k will work just as well in this case. Then you'll connect your new L2 and R2 buttons wires to the L2/2L spots for L2, and R2/2R spots for R2.

If you have the room, just leave the Sticks installed on the board, as you don't want to tear up any traces there and have that mess to deal with.


(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff320%2FRDCXBG%2FDS4%2FJDM-030%25201-980-146-11%2520Top%2520ARCADE_zpsoxwnu2m7.jpg&hash=db060565da1b0087b727b77fb33add83ffe4f91e) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/RDCXBG/media/DS4/JDM-030%201-980-146-11%20Top%20ARCADE_zpsoxwnu2m7.jpg.html)

o wow, sorry for asking redundant questions, just join the forum
thanks for the explanation once again lol
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Roblane on July 26, 2016, 11:00:14 AM
Hi guys, new to all of this so any help is greatly appreciated!


Basically started work on my JDM 030 board and want to add 2 back buttons for X and O. Just wondered where i solder my the ground is for X and O on the JDM 030.

Thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 26, 2016, 01:52:21 PM
Any ground will work. Use one of the mounting lugs for the sticks.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Roblane on July 27, 2016, 03:46:37 AM
Okay thanks but which ground specifically? I dont know where any of the grounds are
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 27, 2016, 04:56:40 AM
Ground is ground, there are no multiple grounds in the controller. Battery negative, USB shield, and again the mounting lugs for the sticks, they're all connected and are all ground. The very first page of this thread, Reply #20, shows what and where they are.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Roblane on July 27, 2016, 07:13:59 AM
Thanks for the reply, ive just been trying to solder the X and O points and exposed the copper pads and everything. But the solder wouldnt stick to the points and everytime i tried to solder a waxy type product was forming on the top of the PCB board. Any idea if i have scratched off to much of the copper?

http://tinypic.com/r/2m45bat/9
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 27, 2016, 12:46:36 PM
Can't really tell from that pic, but the ring for the X via looks gone to me, while the one for O looks alright.

You may want to consider using a set of the Simple Flex that I designed for that version of board, as it just takes out any soldering to the PCB itself. https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43753.0.html
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: jerkwagon on November 15, 2016, 11:48:55 PM
Is there anyway to savalge this controller? I guess i didnt expose it properly and form what i read now theres a ground all around?   i tried to expose tri and X.  Now i neither work.   please let me know if you have any tips?  i dont care to get the actual buttons to work, i just want to be able to install my own switches..


(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaEHdAl3.jpg&hash=89fb3b00750684852cce023adbb48c28931413cf)

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWD6ulS5.jpg&hash=e0cdd99d06ffe20a1baf61a36197a71fed08cf4f)

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Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 16, 2016, 05:23:53 AM
If the buttons are acting pressed all of the time, then they are shorted and there is some hope, but I'd forget all about getting any alternate buttons working again until you can get the thing to just work normally. As deep as some of that scraping looks, I'd be surprised if you haven't torn into the inner layers and possibly wrecked it.

Take some flux and solder braid and clean all of that up first, then see if you can even get it working normally. If any of the buttons are still dead, then you have damaged them internally and will have to try tracing out the lines to find spots farther back to use for the alternate ones. I have not done that, so no idea where they would be or if they are even accessible since the controller has blind vias. This is why I designed the SFX, so that kind of thing there would never happen or even need to be done to the controller. https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43753.0.html
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: jerkwagon on November 16, 2016, 09:53:51 AM
THanks, i am actually an idiot for doing this.. and i made it worst.   I figured since i bridged the ground, i would take my toon and circle around the contact so nothing would be touching it.. needless to say its toasted..
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKDNwh9A.jpg&hash=e2a292c2bb365b89d9d695971b38425306b0373d)

So i am guessing you can only expose the tiny dot and not beyond the circle around the dot?  there for it would mess things up..   

You little thing you made says no soldering needed.. but how come in your photo, you Mobo looks like its been soldered a ton?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 16, 2016, 11:26:56 AM
Yeah, you're at least 2 or 3 layers deep into that board now.

Because I didn't bother to clean the flux from the PCB for those pics. That PCB was first used to make scans of the board, hence the resoldering around the sticks, and then it was used to test my RemappeD out on, hence the soldering around the Vias, and since I didn't have the SFX here yet, I had to solder everything to it, which was done correctly and why that controller still works to this day - http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f320/RDCXBG/miniDSm4pper/Beta1_zpsnpoyezsi.jpg

It's only the Via that needs to be prepped. The actual dead center of it is noting, that's a hole, it's the tiny ring around that hole that you remove the mask (green coating) from to expose the copper underneath to solder to.

The SFX requires no soldering to install, but then you do have to solder your wire for your new buttons to it. But then you have nice large pads that are labeled to solder to, there's no touching the controller board at all with the X-acto blade or an iron.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: jerkwagon on November 16, 2016, 01:56:56 PM
@rdc, do you have a photo showing the points i can solder so i can remap my X, /\  to say Up and Left?  (i plan on doing the remapping in the playstation)  i just need to move the  Up and Left to the new buttons.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 16, 2016, 02:16:22 PM
That information is already in this thread - https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43542.msg326641.html#msg326641 all you have to do is flip the board over and the Vias are right there in the same spots.

If you need the spots for the damaged ones on your board, I've no idea where they are as I have not traced the entire board out, as you literally have to destroy one of these things now to figure out where everything goes.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: jerkwagon on November 16, 2016, 05:59:59 PM
what about from the opposite side? i think if i use this side, the rest of the buttons wont make contacts on the plastic ribbon..
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 16, 2016, 06:22:27 PM
That's why I said "flip the board over".
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: jerkwagon on November 17, 2016, 03:36:14 PM
So Im not sure if this relevant to this thread but i thought i would post something that i have done that might help others.  This might work on X,O, [], /\ but i decided to use it on  U,D,L,R  and it works great so you just need to bind your keys on the PS4.  Yes a pain in the butt, but works.

My method was glue the wire to the side of the dpad 1st, then press the freyed wire on the contact,  Add a tiny amount of glue, then press on the glue with your fingers, It might take a few tries, then just test the contact, press the other end of the wire on a ground.  Bingo..

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWKJ0fxn.jpg&hash=19c67dc4191737f7445c67368e3fb2810d3c568a)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: moyherrera on December 05, 2016, 05:43:59 PM
hi guys i have a question the news model of the ps4 controller JDM-040 (1-981-330-31) do y'all know the locations for the X, O square and triangle, i didn't see it on the pics and I'm not sure if y'all know the locations or not just wondering. i bought the new and wanted to remap the x and o on it.
thank you
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 05, 2016, 06:20:28 PM
I have not looked into tracing out the JDM-040, it's on the list to eventually get around to, but it was easier to just make the SFX for it so the controller doesn't need to be soldered on at all. https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44001.0.html
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Macs_wrx on December 09, 2016, 06:16:35 AM
Hi, have read through all pages of this and am very impressed  :hifive:
I was just wondering if you would happen to know if the main board is totally destroyed by getting charged with phone fast chargers ? I have received all 3 versions of controllers and all with the same problem of no light on with ps button pressed or when use the usb cable to ps4 console. I have changed batteries and charger ports and ribbons but still nothing from controllers. Totally dead. If there was any other suggestion you may have I'd be very grateful. Thanks
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: jdjlr on January 10, 2017, 10:40:52 PM
Is there any chance to know which version of JDM and JDS the control has without disassemble? Maybe the serial on the back of the controller or something?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 11, 2017, 01:46:20 AM
Possibly, though I haven't been keeping any track at all of those numbers on the back. The model number is always the same, just like the DS3 days, so that one is useless for telling what it may be. You would also need the very first one at every stage they changed it, so you knew the exact numbers, or there would still be overlap with what you were getting.

If you're planning on doing anything to it internally, then you'll be taking it apart anyway, and then you'll know what it is for sure. ;)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: jdjlr on January 11, 2017, 07:39:26 AM
Possibly, though I haven't been keeping any track at all of those numbers on the back. The model number is always the same, just like the DS3 days, so that one is useless for telling what it may be. You would also need the very first one at every stage they changed it, so you knew the exact numbers, or there would still be overlap with what you were getting.

If you're planning on doing anything to it internally, then you'll be taking it apart anyway, and then you'll know what it is for sure. ;)

I want to buy a case for the controller, but it only fits on JDM-001 with JDS-001... Maybe the controller with a serial starting in 1?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 11, 2017, 08:17:58 AM
For a case it wouldn't make any difference what the controller version was, now for a new shell it would. Every controller I have here, from -001 thru -030, all have a serial that start with a 1, so that's not going to help you.

If you are looking to get a new shell for your controller, then again, you're going to have to take the thing apart anyway, so just do that and then you'll know what version it is.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: jdjlr on January 11, 2017, 09:48:15 AM
For a case it wouldn't make any difference what the controller version was, now for a new shell it would. Every controller I have here, from -001 thru -030, all have a serial that start with a 1, so that's not going to help you.

If you are looking to get a new shell for your controller, then again, you're going to have to take the thing apart anyway, so just do that and then you'll know what version it is.

Yeah, actually what i want is the shell case. Maybe i should buy a controller with the black d-pad and triggers, those are from the first Gen...
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: shield4peace on January 28, 2017, 08:11:46 PM
hello I have a little problem, I lifted a resistance and lost it, can someone send me its value please? Thanks in advance  :faint: (https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediafire.com%2Fconvkey%2F7f3f%2Fgew57t2s7t63czqzg.jpg&hash=4f61e962c20a44efc3e7e02762c84da5284c39b3)

EDIT:  The push button keep pressed once i press it, i think the resistance is the problem
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 28, 2017, 09:19:01 PM
It's a Pull-Down Resistor for the R3 button line, so yes if it is missing that will cause an issue. It's a 47k, 0201 SMT Resistor. You can install a 1/4w or 1/8w thru hole on the bottom side of the board much easier for the fix. Just solder one lead of the Resistor to either of the R3 button leads, then the other lead to ground. See this post for the solder locations, you'd install the 47k between either of the R spots and any of the O or - spots. Just make sure it stays out of the way so the braces in the shell don't hit it.

https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43542.msg326467.html#msg326467
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: kempie1234 on February 16, 2017, 08:07:07 AM
https://www.mediafire.com/?shpbv0s2cj1l3ah (https://www.mediafire.com/?shpbv0s2cj1l3ah)
Hello,

My ps4 says always that the battery of my controller is empty. i opened my controller and i saw the lowest resistor in the circle was missing. I thought it was a 100k 0402 resistor, so i placed a 100k resistor there. But when there is a 100k resistor my ps4 thinks that my battery is always full (3 stripes). I don't understand it, does anybody know which value is correct or does anybody know how i can solve my problem...

I hope someone can help me

Kind regards,

Eric
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 16, 2017, 03:34:07 PM
Hey Eric,

Both of those Resistors in that circle there are 0402, 150k, 1% tolerance or better. They make up a voltage divider for U1 to monitor the battery voltage, so they need to be the correct values.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: kempie1234 on February 16, 2017, 11:42:27 PM
Thnx for your answer!

I have ordered new resistors and i will let you know if it works. Only thing, there are 3 components in the circle, 2 resistors and 1 capacitor or? which one is the resistor and which one the other one.

Thnx!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 17, 2017, 02:06:55 AM
I know there are 3 components there, but you only asked about the value of the one in the bottom of that circled group, and that's a 150k Resistor. The middle one is a Cap, the top one is the second Resistor that makes up the divider and the Cap is just a decoupler for the divider.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: kempie1234 on February 23, 2017, 08:44:24 AM
Thanx for the reply!

It works great with the new 150k 0402 resistor!

Thnx!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 23, 2017, 02:37:24 PM
Welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: saboteur_vn on May 11, 2017, 02:51:08 AM
In the left circle, the 2 vertical components are Resistors, 10k, 0402. The horizontal one is also a Resistor, 0ohm, 0603.

In the right circle, the top component is an NPN Transistor, marking is KKB and you'll have to hunt for it. The bottom one is a Resistor, 1M, 0402.
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Fmgvcc11in%2Fquestino.jpg&hash=20b9486af957f18898a471d7429790488da34e0b)  (http://postimg.org/image/mgvcc11in/)
Hi everybody. I have the same trouble(right circle) - losed this npn transistor(pcb is jdm-001). But i cant find any "KKB" smd transistor  :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: (i founde only XC9235C2BDM - dc-dc converter KKB marking,but it 5 pins - wrong way)

Guys,maybe somebody knows what transistor should i order for replacement this ?  :help:

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 11, 2017, 04:35:53 AM
It's just a general purpose NPN for turning on one of the 3 LEDs for the Light bar. The other 2 are on the other side of the board in roughly the same location.

It's the SC70 or SOT323 package, and the pinout is 1 - Base, 2 - Emitter, 3 - Collector. Pretty much anything would work in there as it's just a switch, so the PMSS3904 or BC847 or really any of a huge number of NPN would work fine.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ucsd8121 on May 11, 2017, 04:48:00 PM
Hi guys,

Total newb here trying to put the guts of DS4 into my Madcatz TE2+ to make it wireless...  I read over all of the posts on this thread, but I am still confused. 

My DS4 PCB is JDM-040.  I'm still confused about the wiring for L2 and R2 buttons.  So how does the wiring go in order to make those button functional?  My understanding is from 3.2v connect 10k resistor then wire that to L2 which then gets wired to one of the leads on the button, then 2L which gets wired to the other lead for the button for L2? 

so from DS4 PCB, lead for 3.2v --> wire --> 10K resistor --> wire --> L2 on PCB  --> wire --> L2 button lead, and then other L2 button lead --> wire --> 2L on PCB.  Is this correct?

Any help will be so much appreciated.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 12, 2017, 12:34:59 AM
Depends what you're definition of functional is. Those buttons are Analog, but if all you want is for them to be is Digital (on/off) like an arcade stick button, then just wire them up how you're thinking they go there, as that is correct.

3.2v--(10k)--L2

L2---New L2 button (one side)
2L---New L2 button (other side)

Then just repeat the same thing with another 10k and R2/2R for the new R2 button.

Also remember that L1, R1, L3 and R3 all use 3.2v as the Common. All other buttons use Ground for the Common.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-040%201-981-330-31%20Top%20ARCADE.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: saboteur_vn on May 12, 2017, 01:53:05 AM
It's just a general purpose NPN for turning on one of the 3 LEDs for the Light bar. The other 2 are on the other side of the board in roughly the same location.

It's the SC70 or SOT323 package, and the pinout is 1 - Base, 2 - Emitter, 3 - Collector. Pretty much anything would work in there as it's just a switch, so the PMSS3904 or BC847 or really any of a huge number of NPN would work fine.



Great. Thank you veery much. Yes, leds work then i turn  on or charge the pad. Maybe not all colors are work - Orange wotking. Blue (and white) - are not,
it seems.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 12, 2017, 07:48:05 AM
Yep, that one is for the Blue LED in there, so any color needing Blue would not work, so Blue, White, Violet, etc.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: turnkey on May 23, 2017, 07:32:09 AM
Does anyone make a remap board that has the 2R / 2L for the JDM-001?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Zero-X on July 06, 2017, 09:24:09 AM
Hello everybody,

My problem is that my "options" button is not working.
When i opened the controller i could see a white thing around the button on the electronic plate, like "powder".
I cleaned it up, but i cannot see what is wrong.
Can someone tell me what happened here?

It is the JDM-011 version.

Sorry for my english, i am from germany.

(https://s3.postimg.org/ks296aogv/IMG_1502.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ks296aogv/)


Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 06, 2017, 05:58:45 PM
That powder was probably just left over from the board when it was cleaned and does not hurt anything, unless you spilled something on it?

Does the button still click when it it pressed? If not, then it is probably bad. They can wear out or fail early and still click though. That is the first and easiest place to start, either replace it or use a DMM and see if it is working correctly.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Zero-X on July 07, 2017, 12:48:01 AM
Thank you for your answer.

Yes, the button does click when pressed.
I yoused a dmm, between this two points, and pressed the button and it still works.
It seems that the button himself is working, but the signal is anywhere interrupted.

 
(https://s9.postimg.org/wha7v5ifv/IMG_1503.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/wha7v5ifv/)

Thank you in Advance.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 07, 2017, 01:10:23 AM
You can trace it out and see if there is a break, but then it goes right under MCU where you can not really check that connection. If the trace is good, then either the BGA solder joint at the MCU is bad or the MCU is bad.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-011%20OPT%20Bottom.jpg)

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-011%20OPT%20Top.jpg)

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Zero-X on July 07, 2017, 01:38:10 AM
Thank you, i will check it later.

1.Is the white marked line that trace i have to check?
2.Do you know if there is a resistor or anything else between the button and MCU?

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 07, 2017, 01:44:16 AM
Yes
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: marsel on July 13, 2017, 06:42:38 PM
Hi guys, can someone help me? sorry if my question not correctly about modding but i have problem with my ds4 JDM-011. right stick always to the lower left if playing game.
(https://s13.postimg.org/8j6w4o9vn/stik.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8j6w4o9vn/)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 13, 2017, 08:22:39 PM
Well for starters, that's a pic of the bottom of where the Left stick goes, so if you do have an issue with the Right one that's not going to be of much help. If the issue is with that Left stick, then there are either shorts, messed up traces or pulled plating in some of the holes there. No way to tell from that pic exactly what the issue is as it's too blurry.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: marsel on July 14, 2017, 12:22:22 AM
Well for starters, that's a pic of the bottom of where the Left stick goes, so if you do have an issue with the Right one that's not going to be of much help. If the issue is with that Left stick, then there are either shorts, messed up traces or pulled plating in some of the holes there. No way to tell from that pic exactly what the issue is as it's too blurry.
sry its new foto, i had change my analog ds4 but no diffrent. i try to peel the line for check if there is a break but i am confused now to fix it. sry my english is bad, i used translate google
(https://s2.postimg.org/73aa9yszp/stk1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/73aa9yszp/)

(https://s14.postimg.org/f8nl2gzsd/stk2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/f8nl2gzsd/)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 15, 2017, 03:12:55 PM
You'll need a meter to find the break or short. Both sticks should measure pretty much the same, so you can use the other one for comparison.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: JungleThing on August 10, 2017, 07:26:28 PM
Hey im wondering if you could or if someone could upload a zoomed in picture of the jdm 040 circuit board.  I'm trying to see what components are on the left side next to the left joysticks. I say this because I think I'm missing that piece.  Not sure what the component is or what size but I'm thinking it's a diode.  So if you all could please assist me with locating that part then I can modify my circuit board as well. Thank you all if you can assist.
Also I can show you a picture of what I'm missing.
(https://s28.postimg.org/3wsog679l/20170801_204704.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/3wsog679l/)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on August 10, 2017, 08:26:58 PM
It's a diode for the rumble motor. Cathode side is denoted by the round mark there. The same circuit is on the right side of the board for the other motor.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: A_Seldom_User on September 01, 2017, 11:49:44 AM
I'm a noob at this but want to attach a ESP32 to my JDM-040. The goal is to use GPIO pin from the ESP32 to control L2/R2 trigger, for best I want to use PWM (the ESP32 supports PWM@5MHz, so it will be just fine with a small capacitor). But I'm confused about how the triggers work.
So far, I got that
3.2v-----10K Ohm----L2 pin----a Variable resistor that gets low resist when press the trigger (I guess) ----2L pin.
I have detached the original bottom flex and used a led to test some voltage on those pins.
I could read a relative high voltage on 2L and R2 pins (in RDC's pic, reply #95) refer to GND. (So, I have a different JDM-040 sub series or the pic was miss labeled.) I couldn’t tell whether the brightness was between 2L--LED--GND and 3.2v--LED--GND. But I still can get a quiet low brightness when doing 3.2v--(+)LED(-)--2L and 3.2v--(+)LED(-)--R2.
Aside from this, I got an ultra-low lumen when comparing action/DPAD button with GND, but it was darker than everything, I guess there is a quite large pull up resistor there.
As I don’t have something that can easily determine voltage or resistance, I have difficulty understanding how them work.
I have found that L2 pin seems doesn’t have any currents when connected to 3.2v or GND. And when the button flex was removed and no 10k resistors, I could see a little value on both analog triggers and noise when I move the joystick. I tried to use a resistor to connect L2 to 3.3v, the trigger seems to be fully released and when L2 is connected to 2L or GND, the trigger shows being fully pressed. These seems like that the L2 pin is connected to an ADC and 3.2v-L2-2L is a voltage divider, but why not 2L=GND, or it isn't a voltage divider?
Is there any way that I can just use voltage to control the two analog triggers?
Sorry for my bad english.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: pinha10 on October 13, 2017, 10:09:58 AM
Hi everybody, Im working on a JM-040 and found a "short" between +5v and GND on flex header (in the pcb)

I found some caps in short too (about 3) I just desoldered all of them but the short's still in there.

Can you help me to identify the correct IC who controls the power supply for usb please?

Thanks.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: amr1286 on December 08, 2017, 03:42:38 PM
Hi, I recently started a project requiring a ds4 padhack. My first attempt was somewhat successful using a jdm-001. I ruined one of the traces, so I decided to take another shot at it with a jdm030 board.

I was having issues powering on the controller (too much power on pc/too many usb on ps4 messages) before I realized I was using the incorrect micro usb board. I was using a JDS-040 instead of a JDS-030. I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I wanted to ask those more familiar with it. Would using the wrong one cause such issues or do you think there is an underlying issue or short on the main board.

Was hoping to hear some opinions before I start buying new boards.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 08, 2017, 04:33:02 PM
@pinha10 - If you have a short from 5v to GND in one spot, you're going to have it everywhere you check on the 5v rail.  Until you start removing things to find out what is actually shorted it's hard to tell what it could be.



@arm1286 - The JDS-030 and JDS-040 have the same size cable, but they have very different pinouts, so you'd for sure have issues interchanging them.


JDS-030

1   - GND
2   - D+
3   - D-
4   - GND
5   - 5v
6   - 5v
7   - GND
8   - LED+
9   - GREEN-
10 - RED-
11 - BLUE=
12 - GND

JDS-040 and JDS-050 and JDS-055 (NOTE: The JDS-040 can be used in place of the JDS-050 and JDS-055, but the connector is on the opposite side so plugging the cable in is a little trickier. The JDS-050 and JDS-055 are the same)

1   - GND
2   - GND
3   - D+
4   - D-
5   - GND
6   - GND
7   - GREEN-
8   - RED-
9   - BLUE-
10 - LED+
11 - 5v
12 - 5v

The JDS-011 and earlier have a 14 pin connector
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: amr1286 on December 08, 2017, 05:43:34 PM
Thanks, that is what I suspected. I am kind of glad to hear that because I thought I nailed the soldering this time around. I wasn't really looking forward to repeating that...
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 18, 2017, 11:52:22 PM
Welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: psychodracon on January 04, 2018, 05:04:44 AM
Hi all, i started to working on my home project, and i have some questions.
1. Why i can`t use solder points marked with green rectangle?
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/vKcQslxNQn2ApFhPVERItw.png)
I`ve read that pad buttons will stop working, ok, but if i desolder those points will it back to normal?

2. If i don`t desolder analog sticks do i need to solder 10k resistor between pin 3/4 and 17/18?
3. Is 3.3V safe for pins.

Thank You for help!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 04, 2018, 05:36:47 AM
1 - Who said you can't use them?

It all depends on what you are using the controller board for. If you plan to keep the controller complete, then no you can't use them as it will ruin the connection to the daughter board, that thing plastic flex wiht the button contacts.

If you are making an arcade stick or some other project were only the controller board is needed, then yes you can use those spots for button connections after you scrape away the black carbon coating on them and expose the copper under there.

2 - The sticks have nothing to do with needing the 10k Resistors there, they are to take the place of the ones that are on the daughter board when it is removed. If you remove the sticks, then you need to put Resistors in place of the Sticks, so the controller 'thinks' they are still on there and in the center position. The Resistors between 3/4 and 17/18 are needed because the daughter board is missing.

3 - The PS4 controller uses 3.2v for it's main power supply voltage, so it could interface with a 3.3v system.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: psychodracon on January 04, 2018, 05:57:38 AM
Thank You very much for fast reponse, everything is much clearer right know.

1. I`m planing to create device similar to arcade stick but with some additional features, I`m just wondering if I decide to abandon project and i want to put controller back to orginal shape will it work wihout black carbon coating on pins?

2. Didn`t know thank You for guidance.

3. Thanks.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 04, 2018, 06:08:10 AM
If you remove that carbon coating then the connections to the daughter board are pretty much ruined. While you probably could recoat them, it would be unreliable as there would be solder all over the copper and then new coating on top of that instead of on the copper. You would be better off just getting another controller after messing with that one.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on February 18, 2018, 12:23:45 AM
Hello.
Will anybody help me to identify 2 SMD elements on JDM-030 near touch button.

(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ff1.s.qip.ru%2FcMfvXErB.png&hash=781be5ca77ffd8c13e5207b69f2413a6e3d585bd)


thanks in advance
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 18, 2018, 05:45:35 AM
The Transistor and it's BE Resistor look like they were never installed to begin with, which makes sense as the one missing Resistor on both boards that I have here is installed there on that board, which would make it act like that Transistor was just on all the time, so no need for it.

Both JDM-030 boards that I have on hand here look like this, but that doesn't mean there is another variation of the -030 that is supposed to be setup like that one you have there.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-030_TB.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on February 18, 2018, 08:38:32 PM
The Transistor and it's BE Resistor look like they were never installed to begin with, which makes sense as the one missing Resistor on both boards that I have here is installed there on that board, which would make it act like that Transistor was just on all the time, so no need for it.

Both JDM-030 boards that I have on hand here look like this, but that doesn't mean there is another variation of the -030 that is supposed to be setup like that one you have there.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-030_TB.jpg)

Thanks a lot!.

My distant customer have dancing touch and he think that he smashed this elements.

At first I thought that places at his pcb are very clear.

Maybe 10 pin ribbon deglued from touch partialy and touch "dancing" :)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: shr70 on February 19, 2018, 10:25:14 AM
Hi,

my controller (JDM001) does not charge any more. The Playstation always complains about the battery being low and then shuts off the controller. After opening the controller i figured out that the charge voltage is only 0.5V and the current only 16uA. Any idea what component could be defective?

I already checked all 0 Ohm fuses, but non of them were broken. I also have measured the voltages at different probe points.
Results:
green=1.8V
yellow=5.2V
red=3.3V

As those are common logic voltages they should be good, at least as far as I know.

I read in a previous post that the two resistors(blue) should be 150k with 1% tolerance. I measured them at 97k and 104k. Might those be the problem? I do not have any replacements at the moment and want to confirm that those can be the issue before buying new ones (Shipping is 7$ for 2 resistors).

(https://s18.postimg.org/ujsvu9ad1/1-889-300-21_Bottom.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ujsvu9ad1/)

Thanks
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 19, 2018, 10:48:32 AM
They are probably alright, as the value of them in circuit will not test correctly. On the controller I have here they both measure 101k and 100k while on the board.

The first thing to check would be the battery, as that JDM-001 has been around for awhile now and it's bound to have gone thru at least a few charge cycles.

Not sure where you're checking that charge voltage, as right across the battery terminals, while the USB cable is plugged in, is where that would be done, and if it's measuring 0.5v there then the controller wouldn't even turn on from the battery power alone.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: shr70 on February 19, 2018, 01:46:55 PM
Hi,

I already replaced the battery, as that was my first guess. But the error persist. I measure the voltage across the battery terminal with the battery connected. The current was measured by soldering wires to the PCB battery connector  and the battery and connecting the multimeter in series.

The controller won't turn on if its just battery. It will only turn on when plugged in through usb. It worked when I first replaced the battery, since it came precharged. But since it emptied and won't charge up again.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 19, 2018, 02:13:40 PM
Hopefully the protection circuit in the battery pack has done it's job and that's why it's measuring that now.

That charge circuit in there is a bit of a mess. I started tracing all of that out years ago on the -001 and finally decided it wasn't worth it, as practically every part in there has 0 information on it.

If I were really curious about it though, I'd swap the PMIC, the BD9200 (QFN32) on the other side of the board. The -011 and -020 still use that same BD9200 chip, so it may not be too hard to find one for the swap.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on February 19, 2018, 02:29:46 PM
Hi,

I already replaced the battery, as that was my first guess. But the error persist. I measure the voltage across the battery terminal with the battery connected. The current was measured by soldering wires to the PCB battery connector  and the battery and connecting the multimeter in series.

The controller won't turn on if its just battery. It will only turn on when plugged in through usb. It worked when I first replaced the battery, since it came precharged. But since it emptied and won't charge up again.
If you cant' find solution I think you can add cheap USB Li-Ion charger and connect it to 5V point.
Some like this:
https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/2-Micro-USB-5-1A-18650-TP4056/32836114063.html
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RYCHUK on April 01, 2018, 07:25:35 AM
Hello sorry for my english but I have a problem with the value of capacitors in the picture if anyone could give them to me in advance, thank you
(https://s17.postimg.org/6rybqpnyz/AAAA.png) (https://postimg.org/image/6rybqpnyz/)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on April 02, 2018, 07:32:05 AM
10uf, 0603
10pF, 0402
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ControlAble on June 04, 2018, 11:40:40 PM
I wonder what the reason is for having a 100Hz switched 3.3V on 2L/2R?  As opposed to a straight up divider between 3.3V and GND.  Surely it can't be power savings else they would have done the same with the stick pots.  Perhaps its in order to trigger an interrupt?  I'm curious as to why Sony have decided to go this route with the triggers.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 05, 2018, 12:17:08 AM
They did it on the DS3 controllers as well, and the XB1 controller Triggers also work in a similar fashion.

Power consumption is the most plausible option. Making the controller able to detect any of the easier mods done on the Triggers is also another option. You'd have to ask either of them for the exact reason though.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Frs_william on June 10, 2018, 11:51:36 PM
Hello, I'm new to the forums and I had a question, I've already modded a few controllers so I know somewhat how to solder and was wondering if anyone knew where the contact point is for the R3 on the jdm-001 board?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 11, 2018, 12:02:11 AM
The R3 spots are the solder joints of that Tact switch. Those are the same for pretty much all versions. R3 uses 3.2v for the common connection, not Ground, so just use any 2 of the opposing connections for the new R3 button.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Frs_william on June 11, 2018, 06:14:03 PM
Thank you for the reply. So I would just have to solder a wire to each side from here then onto the button I'm going to use?

(https://s33.postimg.cc/tn8hybzjf/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tn8hybzjf/)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 11, 2018, 06:27:42 PM
You have the R3 Tact and the Y-Axis POT circled.

The 4 solder joints there on the left side that are circled are the ones for the R3 Tact. Pick 2 of those to use for the new R3 button.

X  O

O  X
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Frs_william on June 11, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
Alright I see, thank you very much! I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: HiImAi on September 01, 2018, 12:30:22 AM

(https://s22.postimg.cc/qfgo7az2l/JDM-040_1-981-330-31_Top.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qfgo7az2l/)

Hi, can anyone tell me what the resistors circled in red are please? Thanks.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 01, 2018, 09:11:58 PM
The Resistor, component circled on the left, is 1.5k

The component circled on the right is a Capacitor, it is just for decouling. You can leave it off, or toss in just about any value there from 1pf to 1uF and it'll still work the same.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: saulveloz on September 25, 2018, 11:51:48 PM
hey guys when i was trying to change the joystick on a JDM-030 Controller i ripped the via from the Right Click
The bad: The click is now pressed all the time
The good: if i press B1 (se pictures) with my finger real hard it kinda works for a moment, hope someone help me
(https://i.postimg.cc/fVk58Dw5/20180926_012910.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fVk58Dw5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/rDvGg4ZF/20180926_012929.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rDvGg4ZF)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 26, 2018, 04:19:51 AM
You need to clean up all of that solder mess at the B1 location for starters.

The wire at A2 is doing nothing, that spot just has 3.2v on it. If anything that should be jumpered up to the A1 spot.

I hope that little bit of trace on the top side of the board that was ripped up was cut off before the new stick was installed.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: HiImAi on October 03, 2018, 10:40:28 PM
The Resistor, component circled on the left, is 1.5k

The component circled on the right is a Capacitor, it is just for decouling. You can leave it off, or toss in just about any value there from 1pf to 1uF and it'll still work the same.

Awesome, thank you so much! I soldered on a 1.5k resistor and the USB data connection is working again. I took a closer look at the capacitor's location and it seems like there was nothing soldered there in the first place, so I left it off. Thank you for looking into it though!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: AntarcticFrost on October 29, 2018, 10:16:57 PM
Ok guys! Desperate for help here. I am using the PS4 battery for another project, and literally for the life of me and my first born, i can not find what the ps4 controller battery pin head is called, so i cant order a ton of them..... please help me! i will legit paypal someone $20 to give me the name of it. and spoiler alert, it is not an XH2.54 (as i have already discovered)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on October 29, 2018, 10:58:13 PM
You didn't specify the controller version you are looking for, as they changed it on the JDM-030 to a smaller one.

The XH2.54 is a JST connector, but it's a 2.54mm pitch (pitch = the spacing between the pins or leads measured center of one pin to the center of the next pin) and the DS4 connectors, while still JST, have a smaller pitch.

The JDM-020 and lower versions connector is the JST, 2mm pitch, PH series.

The JDM-030 and higher versions connector is the JST, 1.5mm pitch, ZH series.

You can take you pick of them at DigiKey, Mouser and the like.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Padilla on November 14, 2018, 07:33:56 PM
Hello everybody, I want to ask for a little of help. One friend gave me his old controller so I could fix and replace their sticks and their L's and R's. It is a JDM-011 and when I opened it the piece in the back of the board that has like an H with a dot popped out. I wanted to ask what is this part? I was thinking to just try to resolder it, but I wanted to know if there is posible to replace it in case it fell out because it is broken and with no use. Sorry for my bad English, it's not my native Language.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 14, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
That part is an Inductor, and it must be on the board for the PMIC (Power Managment Intergrated Circuit) to work correctly.

If it is not broken, and the pads are still on the board, then you should be able to resolder it back on there. I'd have to see good pics of the part and the board to tell. Sometimes they can break off 'clean' and you will be able to repair it. If it has ripped off a pad from the board or the Inductor is damaged then it will be much harder to repair.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Padilla on November 15, 2018, 11:51:57 AM
That part is an Inductor, and it must be on the board for the PMIC (Power Managment Intergrated Circuit) to work correctly.

If it is not broken, and the pads are still on the board, then you should be able to resolder it back on there. I'd have to see good pics of the part and the board to tell. Sometimes they can break off 'clean' and you will be able to repair it. If it has ripped off a pad from the board or the Inductor is damaged then it will be much harder to repair.
Thanks for answering so fast. Here are some pics of the part and the PCB.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gnQndhZ7/IMG-20181115-164548728.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnQndhZ7)

(https://i.postimg.cc/PNfLMTHS/IMG-20181115-164634670.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PNfLMTHS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/BjFtvv5n/IMG-20181115-164709972.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjFtvv5n)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 16, 2018, 04:09:26 PM
The board looks alright, but one side of that Inductor does not.

You will need to take the soldering iron and try to re-tin the pads on the Inductor to see if they are still intact. If both pads are still on the Inductor, it would be best to take a meter and just Ohm out the thing, make sure it measures around 1ohm or so before installing it. If it measures open, then one of the small wires has come off and you would need to get another one. If that one is bad, then getting a replacement from another controller would be best.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: FcknSoul on December 14, 2018, 01:08:38 AM
Hello.  Can anyone please help. After i changed my left 3d analog (JDM 050)  my l3 button stopped working. (All components of the new analog are fine). What i need to check? TY for replies.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 14, 2018, 05:01:56 AM
Most likely causes are the plating was pulled out of the holes for the L3 button, or that tiny L3 trace was damaged when removing the stick. The Pull Down Resistor on the L3 line could have been knocked off the board also.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Frs_william on December 20, 2018, 07:10:47 PM
hello, does anyone know how to fix pcb boards? I have a jdm-055 and it has this little rectangle thing missing that I have no idea what it's called or what it does.
(https://i.postimg.cc/t7K0fttc/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t7K0fttc)

This image is from this site and where it shows the solder point of (X) the little rectangular thing above it, is missing on mine. That's the only thing I found missing could that cause it to not work anymore? I don't really know anything about this. I've done a few controllers already where I added extra buttons based on the solder points from the site but this is a first where it just messes up completely so I'm lost. Thank you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fJSzSR5G/image.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJSzSR5G)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 21, 2018, 01:52:04 AM
The part is a Capacitor, and it's still on the board there, it's just moved off to the right, directly above the Via for the Triangle button.

Looks to me like there is possibly a short or two on there from the soldering attempts.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/Misc/Frs_william_055_fix.jpg)

What I would do is remove the 'missing' Cap, it's just for decoupling and not really necessary for it to function. The only thing holding it on there should be the solder flux. Then I would clean up both circled spots with the soldering iron and make sure you can see both pads for each of the Caps so there is no more possible way they could be shorted. This will remove the Cap in the bottom right circled spot as well, and it again is just for decoupling and will be fine with it also removed.

If you're not wanting to solder on the boards anymore, look into the SFX I made for those things. https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44001.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44001.0.html)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Frs_william on December 21, 2018, 12:33:19 PM
I appreciate the reply, I will try that and see if it works. And Is it okay to message you about those sfx things you make for pricing and whatnot? I've used a few of those  I got on Amazon and just make life easier. Ever since the jdm-055 it's hard for me to solder on the front side of the board.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: vahrumka on April 29, 2019, 12:29:57 AM
Hello friends! Tell me what is this chip m324s? This dualshock ps4 motherboard 1-893-557-21
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feximage.ru%2Fimage.php%3Fdi%3DD4B2&hash=fe5fe2b7523b8a303e61583dfbbf59b3b35e9702)
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feximage.ru%2Fimage.php%3Fdi%3D1562&hash=bdf36a309a6836e2f4f9d5d1b63351f881be6154)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on April 29, 2019, 01:04:15 AM
It's a 3.2v Linear Regulator. The LDK130M32R or anything that crosses close to it should work as a replacement. Looks like the Vin pin trace has a lot of corrosion damage at the group of 4 vias, but hard to tell until it gets scraped down a bit to see better.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: vahrumka on May 04, 2019, 02:25:38 AM
Thank you very much!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: dan_paul on May 07, 2019, 03:18:18 AM
Hello guys,
I am new here, this is my first post.
I have a question, if you could enlighten me I would be thankful.
I bought a ps4 dualshock 4 controller with a JDM-055 board and it is missing (completly)the socket in wich you insert the 12 pin charging ribbon. Can you help me naming the socket and is there a way to buy one? Or is there a way to go around that socket?I don't care if the led wont work … I am hopping that I can use the controller.
Thank you very much.
Sorry for my bad english.

(https://i.postimg.cc/F145ZxYF/IMG-20190507-130445.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F145ZxYF)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gLY7PNhv/IMG-20190507-130454.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gLY7PNhv)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 07, 2019, 06:39:16 AM
That is an FFC connector, Flat Flex Cable connector. 12 pin, SMT. 0.5mm pitch. Something like the Molex 0781191128 should work if you can find it. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex/0781191128/WM20468CT-ND/8638615 (https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex/0781191128/WM20468CT-ND/8638615)

Also the Kyocera 046244412010846+ should work. - https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/kyocera-international-inc-electronic-components/046244412010846/1253-046244412010846-CT-ND/10313426 (https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/kyocera-international-inc-electronic-components/046244412010846/1253-046244412010846-CT-ND/10313426)

You can skip installing the connector and just wire up the USB lines to make sure it charges and works, just be careful as it is easy to damage those pads. It's kind of rare for a connector to break off like that 'clean' and not tear up at least 1 trace in the process. All you really need to make it work/charge are 5v, D-, D+ and Ground.

1   - 5v
2   - 5v
3   - LED+
4   - BLUE-
5   - RED-
6   - GREEN-
7   - GND
8   - GND
9   - D-
10 - D+
11 - GND
12 - GND

Left side are even numbers, right side are odd.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-055_Conn.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: dan_paul on May 07, 2019, 10:05:12 PM
@RDC  :#1:  Thank you very very very much. Tonight, after work I will test it. Maybe I will find on the way home a FFC connector.
Ps: I think that the previous owner unsoldered the FFC connector, because the board looks so...clean.
 :drunk:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 08, 2019, 04:19:14 AM
Welcome. Desoldering would have meant the solder was molten and you wouldn't be able to see all 12 of the spots where the leads of the connector were. That connector was mechanically removed, which also would not touch any other part of the board.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: armata007 on May 10, 2019, 02:41:09 PM
Hi,
Does anyone happens to know if there are any spots where I can connect to dpad buttons on 011? I can't see it on the original schematics. Great job BTW on figuring that out
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 10, 2019, 06:30:33 PM
The connector pads on top of the board 5, 6, 7 and 8 are for the D-pad.

5 - DR
6 - DU
7 - DL
8 - DD

6, 7 and 8 all drop thru a via to the back side of the board, so they are back there. The PITA one is DR as it makes a straight run from the connector to the MCU on the top side, so it can only be tapped onto from that trace by soldering to it.

In the JDM-011 image on page 1 for the button vias, directly under where it says JDM there are 5 vias pretty much in a row, going left to right the first 2 (under J) are already marked Pink and Orange, the next 3 (under DM) are DD, DL, DU.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: arashkazemi1371 on May 21, 2019, 09:53:29 AM
This piece is missing on my JDM-030 board
Can anyone tell me what is this exatclly ?

When i press L3, the following buttons get pressed automatically:
Square - Share - Options - Right and Down on both analogs - Left and Down on D-Pad

I think this has something to do with this piece. Everything else seems right to me.

Can anyone help, Please?
(https://i.postimg.cc/m1yytp0R/20190521-210815.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/m1yytp0R)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 21, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
That is a 100k, 0402 sized SMT Resistor. It's used as a Pull Down to keep the L3 button line from floating. Floating button lines can do all kinds of weirdo things, so install a new Resistor and then see how the controller acts.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: arashkazemi1371 on May 26, 2019, 09:27:17 AM
That is a 100k, 0402 sized SMT Resistor. It's used as a Pull Down to keep the L3 button line from floating. Floating button lines can do all kinds of weirdo things, so install a new Resistor and then see how the controller acts.

The 100K resistor did the magic
The controller works just fine, like a new one
Thank You so Much.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 26, 2019, 12:23:04 PM
Welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Gusnnar on June 17, 2019, 01:31:06 AM
That is an FFC connector, Flat Flex Cable connector. 12 pin, SMT. 0.5mm pitch. Something like the Molex 0781191128 should work if you can find it. https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex/0781191128/WM20468CT-ND/8638615 (https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/molex/0781191128/WM20468CT-ND/8638615)

Also the Kyocera 046244412010846+ should work. - https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/kyocera-international-inc-electronic-components/046244412010846/1253-046244412010846-CT-ND/10313426 (https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/kyocera-international-inc-electronic-components/046244412010846/1253-046244412010846-CT-ND/10313426)

You can skip installing the connector and just wire up the USB lines to make sure it charges and works, just be careful as it is easy to damage those pads. It's kind of rare for a connector to break off like that 'clean' and not tear up at least 1 trace in the process. All you really need to make it work/charge are 5v, D-, D+ and Ground.

1   - 5v
2   - 5v
3   - LED+
4   - BLUE-
5   - RED-
6   - GREEN-
7   - GND
8   - GND
9   - D-
10 - D+
11 - GND
12 - GND

Left side are even numbers, right side are odd.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-055_Conn.jpg)


Hi, I'm new, my English is bad.  I had the same problem but mine is the jdm-040 I would like to know which are the connectors that I have to solder in order to load it. Can someone help me?

https://imgur.com/a/KR5kaXj (https://imgur.com/a/KR5kaXj)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 17, 2019, 03:36:10 PM
The JDM-040 connector is the same, it's just turned around.

1   - 5v
2   - 5v
3   - LED+
4   - BLUE-
5   - RED-
6   - GREEN-
7   - GND
8   - GND
9   - D-
10 - D+
11 - GND
12 - GND

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-040_Conn.jpg)

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Mizuho on June 29, 2019, 01:30:59 PM
Hi guys, I bought a PS4 controller that looks like it's had the pcb sanded or something at the controller connector.

I bought a replacement ribbon flex pcb, since both sides had been done and it seems to have worked, but the L2 still isn't working, it's firing on and off continuously.

I've had a look at can't really see anything wrong, but does anyone know where the pad goes on the pcb?  From what I can tell on the scans, I can't really see.

I tried cleaning it up, but it still doesn't look great.  But what confuses me is that tracing the pcb flex ribbon to the pcb itself all looks ok and the pads themselves look identical to the other pads and every other button works fine.

Can't figure out how to upload images either lol.

https://imgur.com/a/LuUdK6v (https://imgur.com/a/LuUdK6v)

Edit: I should mention, it's a JDM-040
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 29, 2019, 01:54:38 PM
Take a Q-tip and some rubbing alcohol to those contacts and that whole area first.

The carbon coating (black stuff) has been removed from that last contact there, which is the one for R2, so it may be causing an intermittent connection there making it act up. You can try cutting a small rectangle piece of paper the same size as the foam piece that sits in the plastic piece that holds the button flex board, then install it under the foam piece, so it puts a tad more pressure on the contacts when the controller is together.

That exposed copper contact will eventually corrode, so even if cleaning it up and putting a little more pressure on it gets it going again, it's working days are numbered. The best thing to do would be to recoat it, and about your only option there is to use a rear window defogger repair kit. Clean (barely scrape) the copper so it's shiny again, then mask it off and try to paint it the same size and thickness as the other ones. Don't just dump some solder on it, it will just tarnish as well and eventually fail since there is nothing to 'dig' into it when it makes contact with the flex board.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Mizuho on June 29, 2019, 05:11:38 PM
Take a Q-tip and some rubbing alcohol to those contacts and that whole area first.

The carbon coating (black stuff) has been removed from that last contact there, which is the one for R2, so it may be causing an intermittent connection there making it act up. You can try cutting a small rectangle piece of paper the same size as the foam piece that sits in the plastic piece that holds the button flex board, then install it under the foam piece, so it puts a tad more pressure on the contacts when the controller is together.

That exposed copper contact will eventually corrode, so even if cleaning it up and putting a little more pressure on it gets it going again, it's working days are numbered. The best thing to do would be to recoat it, and about your only option there is to use a rear window defogger repair kit. Clean (barely scrape) the copper so it's shiny again, then mask it off and try to paint it the same size and thickness as the other ones. Don't just dump some solder on it, it will just tarnish as well and eventually fail since there is nothing to 'dig' into it when it makes contact with the flex board.
I did already try cleaning the area with some IPA and it was pretty dirty, so this is the clean version lol.  I should point out that the R2 is working well and the L2 is the one that is triggering by itself.  Can't really see any reason for it though, as you say, the R2 is missing the carbon coating, but from what I can see, the L2 is fine.  So I'm guessing it's more a problem of where the traces end up, but I can't really figure that out.

Also, there's a foam piece?  There wasn't anything like that in it and this is the first JDM-040 I've opened, so I'm not familiar with it.  I've only opened two PS4 controllers before to replace R2 parts.  I guess I'll go look into that now.

I'll check into the defogger repair kit if I can get it working, but if I can't, it seems like a bit of a waste.

Thanks for the advice though :)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 29, 2019, 07:09:30 PM
My bad, read L2 then looked at the pic and had R2 on the brain from how the older version controllers are laid out. I had to go back a few pages (page 4) and check. That exposed pad is actually a ground connection for the Square button. It wouldn't be messing with the L2 at all.

The Triggers are pretty much just voltage dividers, so either the L2 Resistor (the one right under the L2 button) or the Pull-Up for it (which is built into the flex board close to it) being out of spec or having any crud on them might make it act funky. Same goes for any mess on the board.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on July 02, 2019, 02:16:33 PM
Hi again dear pcb geeks :)

Can you help me identify 5 legs chip on JDM-001?

I have dead JDM-002 with similar chip but other letters on it. Maybe them the same?


Here heating up chip when usb connected. It is near Li-Ion socket:
(https://i.postimg.cc/N52FPGcZ/kiss-199kb-1562101477-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N52FPGcZ)

Win7 not recognize usb device (JDM-001)


Can I replace R32CC with M32D5 from JDM-020?
(https://i.postimg.cc/Czp5XTx1/kiss-154kb-1562102004-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Czp5XTx1)

Or please help me identify it to order at Aliexpress


Stupid ex-repairer insert narrow tape in wide socket from usb plate!!!
Maybe gamepad go to heaven.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HVSG5XRg/kiss-55kb-1562101738-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVSG5XRg)


Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 02, 2019, 02:24:13 PM
They are the same 3.2v Regulator.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on July 02, 2019, 02:45:53 PM
They are the same 3.2v Regulator.
Thank you a lot for fast answer
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on July 02, 2019, 03:03:57 PM
They are the same 3.2v Regulator.

GROOOVY!!!

It works after replace!!!
Thanks again :)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 02, 2019, 04:00:27 PM
Welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on July 02, 2019, 05:30:53 PM
Welcome.
I find the problem :)

Regulator was ok.

Touchpad was dead and heat up that regulator.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on July 02, 2019, 06:02:21 PM
And cherry on a cake - ribbon from touchpad was inserted bad and that why regulator heating up!

That a f**ck!!!!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Gusnnar on July 03, 2019, 07:26:35 PM
Hello
Does anyone know if the external port has data + and data -?

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/JDM-040%201-981-330-31%20Top.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 03, 2019, 07:52:24 PM
As far as I've looked into it, which was back on a JDM-001 version board, it does not. Everything on that headset/extension connector pretty much ran to the MCU. Of those 8 lines, 2 are ground, one is power, 4 are most likely for some form of data that went to the MCU and the last I never traced out completely.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: McClane on August 02, 2019, 08:09:31 PM
Greetings Fellas!

This is my first post about a problem with my ps4 dualshock controller, PCB board model: JDM-030.

I changed the whole right joystick because i was having problems with it. So after i finished and was testing it, i noticed
that the R3 button was not working. So after visually inspecting the PCB board, i noticed that i'm missing probably a resistor 
that got loose when i applied heat to unweld and weld the new right joystick.

Do you guys think this might solve the problem ? and what is the value of this resistor ?

Thanks and regards

(https://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w501/McClane909009/20190802_212751_zpsfwzto6qu.jpg)][URL=http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/McClane909009/media/20190802_212751_zpsfwzto6qu.jpg.html](https://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w501/McClane909009/20190802_212751_zpsfwzto6qu.jpg) (http://[URL=http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/McClane909009/media/20190802_212751_zpsfwzto6qu.jpg.html)[/url]

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on August 02, 2019, 08:27:43 PM
That component is just a decoupling Capacitor, it's not going to kill R3.

The component that could disable R3 is just below and to the right of the spot you marked, and from that image it looks intact. I'd have to guess you tore some of the plating or trace around the R3 when removing the old stick. Remove the stick and follow the trace from the aforementioned component back, or post some pics of the board with the stick removed.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on August 03, 2019, 01:22:36 AM

the R3 button was not working. So after visually inspecting the PCB board, i noticed that i'm missing probably a resistor 
that got loose when i applied heat to unweld and weld the new right joystick.

Replace button first

Check it with multimeter
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: McClane on August 03, 2019, 08:57:31 AM
Greetings RDC Zhenyaka

Thanks for your quick response.
 
i took out the joystick and i'm attaching you a picture of how it is underneath it.
Zhenyaka, The button was activating ok i checked with a multimeter with continuity.

RDC can you point out which component you mentioned that could disable the button ?

Regards

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/w501/McClane909009/0/aa89c3b8-2668-4886-b7ca-b5baf57c02c8-original.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://beta.photobucket.com/u/McClane909009/p/aa89c3b8-2668-4886-b7ca-b5baf57c02c8)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/w501/McClane909009/0/8a46d1f1-226e-4f73-a248-b4c30c1d0736-original.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://beta.photobucket.com/u/McClane909009/p/8a46d1f1-226e-4f73-a248-b4c30c1d0736)[/url]

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on August 03, 2019, 02:03:57 PM
That Resistor is just down and to the right of the spot you marked. It's still intact.

I can't tell if that trace is messed up for the R3 or not, because BotoPhucket has it's logo feces all over that spot, had to save the images and rename them to get a decent look at them, that site is just worthless now.

I see 2 spots things that are questionable.

Red circle - The trace right at R3, can't tell if that's just flux or if the trace has been damaged/removed there.

Blue circle - If the R3 trace there was scratched and the copper exposed enough to make solder stick to it, like how it looks in the pic, and if when you had solder on the ground lug there next to it if that bridged then it would have kept R3 from working.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/Misc/aa89c3b8-2668-4886-b7ca-b5baf57c02c8-original.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: McClane on August 03, 2019, 02:34:01 PM
I think that's flux, because the trace is not open when i measure continuity from the R3 contact on the red circle to the exposed trace on the blue circle that you made.

But i guess that's a possibility that the exposed trace made contact with the ground lug on the blue circle.

I'll solder a new stick again and take into account your 2 observations and see if that does the trick.

I'll let you know.

Thanks.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: McClane on August 04, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Greetings RDC you were spot on.

Thank you very much!

My R3 is working, the problem was on your observation on the blue circle.

When i put everything together, i noticed that now i have a drift on the controller. The view is fixed
down, and rotating. i took out the 2 white conductors that are inside of the green holders on the joysticks
to test if the problem is in the joystick or on the board. but the problem persists. Maybe there is some
flux joining some signals and causing this problem.

Can you give me an orientation of what to check on the board for this ?

Regards
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on August 04, 2019, 10:18:19 AM
The flux shouldn't be conducting anything. You can use a Q-tip and some rubbing alcohol to clean that all up though.

Drifting means it's moving very slowly, like you're barely pressing on the stick in whatever direction. If it is doing that, then you'll probably have to just try another stick.

If you mean it's moving as fast as it can, like you are pressing the stick as far as it will go, then there is either a short or an open somewhere with the 3 connections for the Potentiometer of the stick.

Post a pic of the bottom of the board at the stick so I can see the soldering, but give it a cleaning first, then reflow the solder joints again and see if that changes anything. Don't add any new solder, just reflow the joints a little bit.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: McClane on August 05, 2019, 06:42:36 PM
Greetings RDC

Thanks for your quick reply.

I cleaned and reflowed the solder joints. And the problem persists. I made some measurements that i want to share with you.

From the picture that i'm attaching you, i named the points from 1 to 14 so:

The mess that you see between points 6 and 7 was an attempt to erase a short between these points,
and i tried to break connection in the board just to see that there was more copper below and decided to stop.
At the end, i think that these points are joined together anyway.
unless i broke some connection in the board internally while doing this.

Metal frame of the joystick 3-7-11-12 continuity (GND)

6 and 8 continuity to GND

4 and 10 continuity to Vcc

4 to 6 = 2.35k ohm
4 to 5 = 4.37k ohm
5 to 6 = 4.29k ohm

8 to 10 = 2.43k ohm
8 to 9 = 4.33k ohm
9 to 10 = 4.55k ohm

V4 = 3.21 volts
v10 = 3.21 volts
v5 = varies from 0.6 to 0.9 volts
v9 = 1.44 volts

At the other joystick at the middle point of the potentiometers it measures 1.56 volts and 1.62 volts respectively.

So something definitely is going on at point 5.

I would like to hear your thoughts about this.

If you cannot see the pic well because of the photobucket feces, let me know, to use for another method to upload the picture.

Regards

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Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Romario on September 01, 2019, 04:38:30 PM
Boa noite.
Sobre a pcb do ds4 ( jdm 030 ), gostaria de saber  pouco sobre a linha onde entra a carga da bateria pois após uma limpeza 3 componentes foram retirados acidentalmente e agora não sei o que são e para que servem.
No caso, seriamas 3 componentes que ficam juntos e bem próximo a entrada da bateria...
Caso alguém saiba quais são essas peças e para que servem, por favor me ajudem com esse problema.
Agora a pcb não liga mas.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 01, 2019, 10:16:37 PM
@ Romario - You need to take a picture of your board there and circle the area in question.


@ McClane - Naming the points 1-14 doesn't help when I have no idea where 1 is. Saying the mess between 6 and 7 kind of helps, but I've no idea if you went clockwise or counterclockwise naming them. Lets get on the same page and name game with those points first so I know what measurements go where.

Code: [Select]
       + X G
     O       O
+  b           G
               Y
+  b           + 
     O       O


O are the solder lugs, all are connected to ground
+ is the AN+, measures 3.2v to ground
Y is the Y axis
X is the X axis
b is the Stick button, R3 in this case

The X and Y lines should measure around half of AN+ to ground with stick at the center position, around 1.6v

Any continuity checks should be made with no power to the controller, battery removed is also a good idea.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Romario on September 02, 2019, 05:10:52 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/dD4JdS8L/Screenshot-2019-09-01-20-30-04.png) (https://postimg.cc/dD4JdS8L)

No caso seria esses três componentes que estão faltando na placa... Não sei o que são e nem para que servem.
Desde já agradeço a atenção.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 02, 2019, 07:12:51 AM
They make up a voltage divider, most likely for the MCU to read the battery voltage or some other feedback for something.

Left to Right.

150k, 150k, 1pf

All are 0201 sized. The Resistors are precision, they should be 0.1%.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Romario on September 02, 2019, 08:54:38 AM
Agradeço por sua atenção e agora poderei procurar esses componentes e enfim reativar a pcb que já estava inutilizada a muito tempo.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 02, 2019, 03:53:35 PM
You're Welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: gmc on September 03, 2019, 12:41:58 PM
I'm trying to repair a DS4 controller CUH-ZCGT2E with a connector PCB JDS-055


Controller is not charging. Found a issue with the flex which I fixed and still having a problem. Can anyone identify this component:

(https://i.postimg.cc/qBbT4qQm/Picture-20192403082400.jpg)

In the middle of the board Connects tracks between the micro USB and the flex cable. Right side measures 1 ohm and the leftsize is a open circuit. Is it some kind of fuse?


Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 03, 2019, 12:48:27 PM
It's a common mode choke.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: gmc on September 04, 2019, 08:49:07 AM
Thanks. Replaced the PCB but now there is some issue on the main PCB as its still not charging/powering in. The search continues
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Romario on October 23, 2019, 12:14:44 PM
Eu tenho uma pcb jdm 055 com problemas na conceção.
Tenho que resetar várias vezes até funcionar normalmente, verifiquei os componentes da linda de transmissão wifi e parecem estar normais.... já troquei a placa de carga usb e o flet de 12 vias e o problema ainda continua.
Alguém já teve esse tipo de problema?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: LSL on October 24, 2019, 01:36:43 PM
Já tentou conectar via bluetooth? Caso não veja este vídeo: https://youtu.be/wEig-fSZmBE?t=292

Have you tried connecting via bluetooth? If you don't see this video:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Frs_william on October 29, 2019, 03:43:11 PM
Does anyone know if you can add smart triggers to the extremerate dawn remap kit? So I can have smart triggers for R2/L2 permantelty and still have the 4 back buttons remappable to whatever?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: eltsssgol on November 04, 2019, 08:11:42 PM
Does anyone know how to repair L1 by pressing alone, changed mesh, pad
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: pRonEx on November 29, 2019, 12:18:48 AM
Hello guys! Can you help me??? I broke one smd-transistor on JDM-040, can you take a picture of him? On scans can't see letters on him.  :sadno: Thanksss)))

(https://c.radikal.ru/c01/1911/42/4ea1d88d7546.png)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 29, 2019, 12:31:08 AM
The 2 I have here are both marked YM
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: pRonEx on November 29, 2019, 01:06:41 AM
The 2 I have here are both marked YM

Thanks a lot. Thanks. Thanks :tup:

Do you have JDM-040?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 08:33:23 AM
Hi all, first post here. Figured I'd ask here since RDC seems to have a good handle on these controllers. I have a JDM-011 that overnight went bad. It still connects to the PS4 or PC but doesn't seem to register any button presses besides the PS button, triangle or X. When connecting to the PS4 the first notification that always pops up is about screen recording not being allowed (profile selection screen). I currently have nothing connected to the PCB, no touchpad, no motors, no buttons (just the USB board). I can register the ps + x + triangle buttons on the pads that the flex cable would connect to but no other button will work still. I have traced the share buttons tracks and they don't appear to be shorted. One side is ground (obviously) and the other is open all the way to where it disappears under a chip. Any ideas?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 12:44:13 PM
The fact some buttons work and others don't is a little odd. Was anything spilled on the controller? What is the Resistance across the Share button? It should be a couple of Mohms or so.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 01:40:00 PM
Nothing spilled on it no, I take good care of my stuff. Resistance across the switch is roughly 8.2M Ω
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
Well that's interesting then, I was checking the Tact wasn't worn out and acting stupid since it's used to start/stop the recording there. You'd really have to scope it and make sure it's not doing anything weird in there though, as a DMM wouldn't catch that but the controller would. You could also just remove the Share button, but would need a hot air setup for that as well as getting it back on there, and this is all just shooting from the hip as I haven't seen the exact issue before.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 02:11:24 PM
I've considered taking the button off but I doubt that's going to do much since I rarely use the share button. Maybe 10 - 20 times in total? I can scope it out though.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 02:17:26 PM
Also, brand new parts always work right out the box cause they're new, right? ;)

Just given it's acting like you're hitting that button is the only reason I'm digging into that right now, aka the boring process of elimination of every single thing that works on the controller to find the one, and usually last thing you check, that doesn't.

If you have another good controller there, try holding down the Share button and plug it up, see if it then acts the same as the messed up one, just for comparison's sake.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 02:28:04 PM
Hmm, just touching around for a ground I figured out that the the other non-gnd side of the switch (both share and options) are being pulled low as soon as the battery is connected.

Also, if parts come new out of the box they obviously work as intended each and every time. And yes it was just working yesterday! (heavy dose of sarcasm here, I've worked in IT ;) )
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 02:32:51 PM
I haven't done a schematic of the JDM-011, almost done with the -055 here, but if they didn't change much there then those buttons just go straight to the MCU, no PU or anything there, so that's no good. I've had plenty of the "it was just working" things to work on here too.

Tried the Reset button on the controller? Unplug the battery and hold it, and then plug the battery back in.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 02:40:01 PM
Yeah I've tried most rituals with the reset button already. Just gave it another shot, didn't change anything. I too figured out that the lines from the buttons (or at least the share button run straight to the µC, albeit through a bunch of vias. I suspect there's little to nothing I can do to fix that short of replacing the entire chip. And considering it's a BGA chip... I wouldn't be looking forward to it. That is if I could even find one.

Edit: Just checked the remainder of the non working buttons and they're all being pulled low.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 02:51:17 PM
Given the lines are going active Lo on power up, seems something has disturbed the smoke in there, something latching up or some poor bit flipped. Last ditch is just unplug the battery, short the pins, as well as a few caps in there, and let her sit and think about what she's done for awhile, then give it one last go, after that I'd also lean towards the MCU being the culprit as well if all of the voltages rails are still good. There are 2 or 3 in that thing IIRC, for sure a 3.2v and a 1.8v rail.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 03:03:13 PM
It's been sitting without a battery for quite while since I last gave up on it a few months ago. Couldn't figure it out back then either. Only reason I'm even looking at it right now is because a video popped up in my youtube feed about fixing a "job lot of DS4 controllers". Thought if that guy can get one going than I sure as heck should be able to as well xD

Anyways, I may have just found something:

(https://i.imgur.com/rzwRLhP.jpg)


Seems like that's where the pixies got in a fight and let magic schmoo out. Seems like some sort of diode. Kind of hard to tell what was written on it since... well.. that part is deformed.

Edit: seems to read D6F

Edit 2: Zener diode FTZ6.8E
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 03:06:30 PM
D6F marked on mine here. That's on the USB lines, so steering or TVS diodes. Hot air that thing off there and see how she acts.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 03:24:05 PM
Well the diode is off. Unfortunately the cap to the left of it came off too. Looks like I've finally found a worthy adversary for my Mantis. And a use for my finest tipped iron.  :w00t:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 03:30:41 PM
Cap is just decoupling on the USB 5v, not going to hurt anything missing while testing.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 03:42:37 PM
True, but where's the fun in cutting corners when you can some practice in with an 0402 lol xD That said, taking that diode off didn't do the trick either, same behaviour as before.

Edit: I do have to say that USB works, just like it did before. I can connect it to my PC to get those same keys that work wirelessly register there. So at least that part seems to be working.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 03:55:33 PM
Didn't figure it would honestly. I've seen that TVS fail before and just take out USB communication and/or charging when plugged in over USB, but not internally detonate the MCU. Thing must have sent 5v into the USB data lines and wreaked some havoc inside the ARM there. Be interesting to see if another MCU fixed it or if she has some other hidden goodie causing it.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: C44Supra on December 16, 2019, 03:59:01 PM
I think the MCU can be considered the culprit here. First thing I noticed before it wasn't working is that it got quite toasty on the bottom. I traced that back to the BD9200 PMIC since the plastic battery carrier actually deformed right where that chip is nearly touching it. Pulled well over 1A iirc (can't recall how much more). Got a few replacement chips from AliExpress, replaced it and it now charges at a lower current. Close to 180mA currently.

Looked around the board for more damage that I missed the first two times around but couldn't find anything else that could've let the magic smoke out =(

Edit: I don't think these MCU's are available pre-programmed right? I haven't found any yet. That said, I'm not too fond of BGA chips haha
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 16, 2019, 05:33:24 PM
Far as I know the only place to get one that would work would be another -011 controller. I imagine there has to be a pile of those out there that had botched LED, button and cRapid Fire installs that would be great for parts, just finding one will be the fun part.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: pRonEx on December 17, 2019, 04:20:25 AM
Hello guys! Can you help me??? I broke one smd-transistor on JDM-040, can you take a picture of him? On scans can't see letters on him.  :sadno: Thanksss)))

(https://c.radikal.ru/c01/1911/42/4ea1d88d7546.png)

Hello, again))). Still can't find it. What is this transistor (NPN or PNP)? Not diode. And size SOT-723?
Thanks for help :beg:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on December 17, 2019, 06:24:24 AM
The SOT-723 package seems about right, but that really doesn't narrow it down at all.

It has to be some kind of a PNP or P channel, as that Resistor is a 1.5k and is on the D+ line for signaling it's a full-speed device when D+ is pulled Up by it.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: lovelornz on February 19, 2020, 03:33:55 PM
Hello. There is a component on JDS-050 , bottom of micro usb port, it seems the code on it is "J".  Is it a resistor?  If yes, what is the specification of it ?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 19, 2020, 04:55:20 PM
It's a fuse, 1.25A
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: lovelornz on February 20, 2020, 04:14:07 PM
It's a fuse, 1.25A

Thank's a lot. There is a new question, Can I replace it with a 2A or 2.5A one?  Because the controller  charged by a 2A power bank and probably it was the reason of fuse burning. Again thank u so much.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 20, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
Can you? Sure, can just short it with a jumper wire if you like.

Should you though, that's the better question. ;) If the max weight you could have placed on your chest before not being able to breath was 125lbs, after it was removed would you then want 200lbs or 250lbs put in it's place?

A 2A power supply didn't blow a 1.25A fuse, they do not work that way. If it was a 200A power supply the load (controller in this case) would only draw the current it needed. You wouldn't need a 200A fuse in there.

The fuse blew for 1 of 2 reasons.

1 - Something else in there has a problem and replacing the fuse will just end with it blowing again, and replacing it with a larger value one will only allow more current in there and possibly cause more damage.

2 - It just popped for no reason at all, because sometimes they just do.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: oxonater on February 26, 2020, 04:42:37 PM
Hi peops great site by the way, been a member for a while with no posts until now. Sorry if I have hijacked a thread didn't know whether to create a fresh one or piggy back of a generalised topic.

Any ways got a couple of DS4 pcbs that need a little work, basically on removing the left analog stick it is clear to see from pic that the VIA copper has gone for a burton. I just wondered if there is an alternate area to place a jumper. This board is an 0040 any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also have an 0050 that has had the charge port on pcb ripped of was wondering again if there is any alternatives. Please see pics  thank you in advance.

OXY :hifive:
(https://i.postimg.cc/K1CfQxsJ/ds4-040.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K1CfQxsJ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJCLqFNV/IMG-1355.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJCLqFNV)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 27, 2020, 02:12:26 PM
There are no good alternate spots for most things on the DS4 controllers. The traces for the sticks are on the bottom side, flip it over and you'll see them. You'll have to scrape a trace or via and solder a wire to it.

For that battery connector, jeeze, the 2 outside spots are just grounds for holding the connector in place. The 2 insides ones, left is ground, right is battery positive. Again you'll have to scrape that trace there and solder to it.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: oxonater on February 27, 2020, 09:31:21 PM
Hi

Thanks for the reply on these issues, I just wondered as the missing VIA on the 0040 board doesn't appear to go anywhere whether this may just be a ground point. Also indeed a wire would suffice I have plenty kynar or enamled to use, silly question is do i attach the wire to that particular point on the analog stick.

As for the 0050 yeah it's a right mess came to me as a freebie but now I know why LOL  :huh:

Thanks again for you comments much appreciated  :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 28, 2020, 04:24:42 AM
Flip the board over. The trace for that spot is on the bottom, not the top, not the top and bottom. There isn't always a trace on both sides of plated hole for a component. The trace is on the other side.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: oxonater on February 28, 2020, 01:07:30 PM
Hey

Thanks again for the response, the traces and via's are all ok on the underside of the board, I thought that having this via damaged would impact on the analog stick not working as should.

The initial reason for replacement of left analog stick was controller was having drifting issues , only when I removed it obviously applied to much heat in this area  :wacko:

Thanks again for your help on this and clearly up any concerns I had on sorting this big thanks.

Oxy.  :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 28, 2020, 01:13:59 PM
Welcome.

Don't think of it as too much heat though, it's too much time that the heat was on the board. ;)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: oxonater on March 02, 2020, 02:40:10 PM
Good evening once again

Ok bit stumped here, after replacing the L3 analog stick as per previous pics on the 040 board the blinking R2 Button is constantly active (shooting). I have gone over all the tracks/traces via's and can't see any bridges or nicks.

Just wondered if anything I could have missed even changed the all flex including the conductive one for all buttons with same results.

Did notice one of the 3 pin SMD SOT23 package chips seems to be missing half of the top but it is still clearly soldered to board, think this has YM on it wondered if this may have something to do with the problem.

Clutching at straws at the mo, any incite would be great thanks for your time once again.

OXY  :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 02, 2020, 05:03:25 PM
There isn't anything that I'm aware of that connects any of the buttons to the MCU, they're all pretty much straight to it. It's either the contacts, the flex board or the MCU. Having said that though, I've no idea what kind of funkery might happen if other components are half missing.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: oxonater on March 02, 2020, 11:19:26 PM
Hey RDC

Thanks again for your advice on this matter, when I plug this control in my lappy an run ds4 for windows L3 is all over the place.

Where as the right stick stays dead centre so maybe this ic has a part to play.

Can't see what it says on top as it's been decapitated but the other one adjacent to it has YM engraved.

I will dig a little deeper to find out what this is thanks in advance.

Oxy  :victory: :victory: :victory:


Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: wirPL on March 05, 2020, 05:03:01 AM
Hi everyone, I have got a nasty problem. I have tried to mod (scuff) the controller, and what I have done was drilling this hole, and I end up with a drilled out point of contact. Is there any way to reconnect the spot or bypass it somehow? Thx for all ideas.

(https://preview.redd.it/eawr5z8tlqk41.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=2449561d0090c450538fddbd709a2c393bbdb84d)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 05, 2020, 07:55:07 AM
Put a wire thru the hole and solder it to the trace on both sides to restore the via you obliterated.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: wirPL on March 05, 2020, 08:41:50 AM
The thing is there is no hole in there. Via is so small as hell without tunnel inside.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 05, 2020, 12:18:21 PM
Yeah none of that makes any sense. If the Vis is still in there then the hole in the center of the Via is there, just has solder mask in it. If the Via is gone, then there is a hole where the Via was. Either way, put a wire thru the hole and solder it to the trace on both sides that the Via originally connected. You might need to use a Pin Vise and a very small bit to clear the Via/hole, but it's either that or you run the wire around the board to the same spots on the traces. There is going to be no large and easy to solder to places for you to repair that kind of damage. Most all of the DS4 boards are pretty unforgiving when they get damaged like that, and using something like the SFX makes doing that duplicate button kind of thing a much easier task.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: wirPL on March 05, 2020, 12:44:43 PM
(http://)Via is there, but it looks like the drilled rivet situation, the core is inside but the trace around is damaged. Solder doesn't want stick to it anymore and i don't feel good with scraping trace close to another one. I will by remapper later, and my question is there another x spot to bypass this one?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 05, 2020, 12:51:25 PM
Follow the trace and you'll find another Via at the other end or it. All you'll get is your duplicate X to work though, the original one will still be dead.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: wirPL on March 05, 2020, 01:04:11 PM
(https://imgur.com/5vEEvLP) (https://imgur.com/pc7aFiq)
I think u didn't understand me but correct me if i am wrong. What i was thinking off is to hot wire from the remapper x spot to another end of this trace. I believe the via i messed up is reversed one from this pading which is connected to this foil for buttons on top.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 05, 2020, 01:13:25 PM
If you are trying to repair the controller so that it will function normally again, then I've already told you how you'll need to do that, twice. X is pad 11 if you're not going to go straight thru the board and run the wire around it, and then you'll still need to follow that bottom side trace to the end and use it's other Via to jumper the pad 11 Via to so it will all work again.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: wirPL on March 05, 2020, 01:16:33 PM
https://ibb.co/x7GQMCX
https://ibb.co/Wf4yRND
here is the plan. I only want to trace the cable from source to another end of this trace. I think 1 and 2 is the same via and the x mark is another end of x trace ,but correct me if my conclusions about tracing and idea is correct.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 05, 2020, 01:26:19 PM
The trace ends at pad 11 for the X button. You need to go from the back of the board, X spot you have circled, to the top of the board, Via at pad 11. They are numbered, 1-17 is top row, 2-18 is bottom row.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: wirPL on March 05, 2020, 02:01:12 PM
That is exactly what i am going to do. thx for your time and advice.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on March 06, 2020, 12:50:48 PM
Anybody can help me?

JDM-030

When wired works fine with PC.

Also I can connect it via BT with Android phone. It continously blinks (waits for linking) and no any problem.

But if I press PS button (when it linked with phone) it connect to phone and after one second or less it writes weak battery (icon with ! shows) and disconnects.


Battery is fine. I charged and discharged it with OPUS- BT-C3100.


Where to dig to find the problem?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Achok on April 17, 2020, 11:53:02 AM
I need pcb traces for ps button for  jdm 011model
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: sergei on April 22, 2020, 02:32:32 PM
Привет.Напишите пожалуйста номинал.(https://i9.wampi.ru/2020/04/23/JDM-030-1-980-146-11-Top.md.jpg) (https://wampi.ru/image/6IWuGli)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on April 22, 2020, 09:51:33 PM
@ Achok - Pad 10 is the PS button. There is a 0 ohm Resistor, top side of the board, just to the left of the oblong hole for the Daughter board connections, you can us that for PS. The other side of it is Ground.


@ sergei - All of those are Resistors, 100k, 0402 size
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Achok on April 23, 2020, 02:11:30 PM
@ Achok - Pad 10 is the PS button. There is a 0 ohm Resistor, top side of the board, just to the left of the oblong hole for the Daughter board connections, you can us that for PS. The other side of it is Ground.


@ sergei - All of those are Resistors, 100k, 0402 size


i damaged the 10 pad trying to desolder a wire so it not an option

r u talking about this resistor
(https://scontent.frba2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/94393221_1277750329088657_8078401135188115456_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_oc=AQkKWzEVahPHMTeKOb8NZfOb4ObQfyr805_WTkyFf7Utk9igiM4Zy1KQB8YXafQgEIQ&_nc_ht=scontent.frba2-2.fna&oh=8c2d1c1b28b92bb7e1c8259ae4e58938&oe=5EC6DD85)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on April 23, 2020, 02:13:25 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Achok on April 23, 2020, 02:37:39 PM
Correct.
do u know alternative vias for the 10 pad
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on April 23, 2020, 02:44:00 PM
There are none, that trace stays on top of the board and goes directly to the MCU, so it's the Resistor, the Cap just to the left of the Resistor, or nothing.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Shane_28282828 on May 02, 2020, 03:33:05 PM
Hello I have a question about installing smart triggers. Does anyone know where I'd solder on the board to install them on jdm board 40 and 55without buying a modchip? From what I read I know I'd need to buy different resistors but that's all I know.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Achok on May 03, 2020, 07:41:04 AM
There are none, that trace stays on top of the board and goes directly to the MCU, so it's the Resistor, the Cap just to the left of the Resistor, or nothing.

thank u so much may god  keep  u and ur family safe
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: GoDlike on May 24, 2020, 10:55:29 AM
Hello,

First I would like to thank You very much for schemes and help. People like You should be proud of what you do.  With your help I've fixed LED board connector which was broken on my DualShock 4.

However, after soldering everything I realized that my DS4 LED started working but there's still no connection to USB. After I investigated the board I spotted that there's a missing element on the PCB. Im attaching a photo with the missing element marked with a yellow circle:

(https://i.imgur.com/ejSIXig.jpg)

This element wasn't present on the board when I got it (previous owner failed to repair the controller), so I have no clue what it is but I still need to have it to fix USB connection. Does anyone know what it is? I suppose it may be a resistor but I'm not sure which one.

Board is JDM-055, DualShock 4 500 Million LE.

I will be grateful for any help. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 24, 2020, 12:02:32 PM
It's a common mode choke. Basically 2 Inductors in the same package. No idea on the exact specs of it, but you could just jumper 2 small wires in there to test it before going thru the process of trying to source one. Best place to get it would be from a donor board, but it's not a super critical part. The connections thru it are just straight thru like the traces are, so = is how the wires would be installed.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: GoDlike on May 24, 2020, 12:07:18 PM
Thank you for reply. Hmm I hoped this won't be that hard to fix. Could this be reason of why USB connection and charging doesn't work?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 24, 2020, 12:13:41 PM
Yes. Those 2 lines are the D+ and D- of the USB.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: GoDlike on May 24, 2020, 12:17:08 PM
You're my savior man. I just donated the site. I'm not a rich person but I just wanted to say thanks.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 24, 2020, 12:20:02 PM
Good deal, welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ormondbeach on May 25, 2020, 04:30:19 AM
Dear RDC,

I have JDM-030 controller which works fine with usb connected to DS4windows. All buttons works good and charging and rattling. When I plug the usb off the device is not turning on with the battery power itself. I tested the battery seperately on another controller and it is operational. I suspect that coke spilled on the board previously. I brushed the board gently with alcohol and cleaned it well. Any idea which components or connections I can test to find the problem.

Thank you

(https://ibb.co/4JT4DCG)
(https://ibb.co/1vxzRCj)
https://ibb.co/1vxzRCj (https://ibb.co/1vxzRCj)
https://ibb.co/4JT4DCG (https://ibb.co/4JT4DCG)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on May 25, 2020, 10:15:31 AM
For it to charge the battery but not run off of it is odd. Is it actually charging the battery? or just saying it is charging? What does the battery voltage measure with it unplugged from the USB? then plugged in?

I'm not seeing much damage on there, but looking under the BGA chip is next tom impossible. There is a spot over at the right stick on top of the board, but doubt that would cause it, then a couple of suspect vias in the middle on the bottom that look dark.

Does the PS button work when plugged into the PS4 or using the HTML5 Gamepad Tester?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ormondbeach on May 26, 2020, 01:41:25 AM
For it to charge the battery but not run off of it is odd. Is it actually charging the battery? or just saying it is charging? What does the battery voltage measure with it unplugged from the USB? then plugged in?

I'm not seeing much damage on there, but looking under the BGA chip is next tom impossible. There is a spot over at the right stick on top of the board, but doubt that would cause it, then a couple of suspect vias in the middle on the bottom that look dark.

Does the PS button work when plugged into the PS4 or using the HTML5 Gamepad Tester?

Thanks for getting back to my question.

I used the battery in another working controller and it works fine. I used a working battery on my faulty one also and it didnt fire up. PS button works fine under HTML Gamepad tester. Its just not firing up when I unplug from usb; under battery power. I also disconnected the 10 pin touchpad ribbon incase there is a short circuit but still no luck.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: galvheim on June 09, 2020, 01:29:44 PM
Hi. I got a JDM-055 with liquid damage. I need value for R61
Help is  highly appreciated. Thanks in advance. And thank you for amazing work on the PCB scans. Do anyone know if there are schematics out there with values of components?

https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/21Qe3OJQHp6QdSDQ.full
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 09, 2020, 01:47:58 PM
R61 is 100k, 0402 size.

Good as you'll probably find schematic wise for an -055 right now. https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44645.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44645.0.html)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: galvheim on June 09, 2020, 02:12:10 PM
Thank you so much!  :clap:
I saw that schematic, but only a very few values that I could spot on it. But still pretty useful.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: theADDict on July 06, 2020, 01:34:10 PM
Hey folks, especially RDC of course, I have a JDM 030 problem.

liquid damage.
replaced membranes and cleaned....all works fine except the PS button
problem - the contact pad is totally gone from the PCB, and the pcb is damaged both sides.
Not bad, I expected worse.
So if i can leave/glue a wire to complete the circuit to membrane, is there a via or point I can solder to... to return PS button to normal ??

thanks all
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 06, 2020, 02:30:30 PM
It's on borrowed time, because even if you get all of that stuff out of there that you can see, there's going to be plenty of it you can't. Giving it a bath in an ultrasonic cleaner will give it the best chance, but it's also likely to cause some more issues if it washes away any corrosion that's still acting like a trace. Hard to win on those, depending on how bad the damage is.

Top side of the board, just to the right of the MCU (the big Spansion chip) is a jumper pad. It looks like a circle with a strip missing in the middle so the 2 halves of it are open. The bottom side of that jumper pad is the PS button line. Connect a wire to that bottom side only, then to some new Tact button, then ground for the other side of the new button and that will act as the PS button.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: theADDict on July 07, 2020, 06:33:32 AM
RDC, amazing knowledge and helpful reply as always.

Decided to try a wire from bottom 'burger bun' pad and leave where missing contact was.
Didn't work at first, as too raised, but scratched a groove, added some tape to reverse and case to make additional pressure when closing case, and voila, all buttons including PS working.

thanks again.
Another happy lockdon kiddie.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: theADDict on July 14, 2020, 01:30:09 PM
hey folks,
back again with another Ds4 problem I'm not accustomed to.
Never really bother fixing DS4 aince I got so many fakes given to me.

anyway, this one is legit, and seems to have a pretty common problem, but no concrete reason or fix.

simple issue - press L2 trigger and pretty often left stick reacts up by itself.

unsure wether to go new left stick altogether ?
mew control membrane  ?
or just a new vetical stick sensor to try first ??

but out of interest abd gaining knowledge, how can LT signal interfere with LS vertical ?!?!?!?!


thanks RDC and all in advance
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 15, 2020, 09:49:32 AM
Press the Reset button on the controller first. Make sure the battery is connected and charged. If that does nothing then twist and tweak on the controller a bit to see if that LS issue will happen without touching the L2 at all. After that tear it all down and clean everything good and resolder the LSY POT and try again. After that start guessing, cause I've never seen that issue and the L2 and LS don't have anything at all in common aside from both being connected to the MCU.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: theADDict on July 16, 2020, 12:15:31 PM
hi mate, forgot to update....so in case anyone gets a similar problem, mine seems to be fixed.

Testing on gamepad-tester.com
ps4 ds4 jdm-040

LT made left stick move up by itself ?!


removed green cover on left sensor of left stick, cleaned, clicked back together.
no change.
replaced whole capacitive/control film as I had a few new ones
no change
desoldered left sensor, replaced with an old one from an old xb1 spares stick, broken shaft.
gave the stick an alcohol clean in and around, good blow out too.
Tested.....perfecto !!!

still no idea why LT can efffect LS Vertical. but hey ho.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: theADDict on July 18, 2020, 10:16:54 AM
hey all.

if this is the wrong place to post these ds4 problems, lmk.
I am a newb, dont mind admitting.

Todays issue...
JDM-055 - lovely lightly used condition......but dead.

have a jdm-055 myself luckily....so did the usual -

used my charged battery - nothing.
used my usb board and ribbon - nothing
(tested the original usb and battery on mine, charged fine)
connected to pc - nothing
removed board to check for damage , all I could see was a slight residue on the back ?! cleaned with isopropyl.
even decided to put in a new button film, and I swear, as I was reconnecting usb or battery, I got a blue light flash or two !!
HOW and WHY ?

but then nothing, still dead all over which way.

so....which components shall I head to on the pcb? where can I look to save this minty condition controller ?


as always,
thanks in advance.
I just love trying to fix stuff :-)
Fixed a guitar amp for an old neighbour last week, he was so chuffed, warms me :censored:les.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 18, 2020, 11:53:13 AM
Go over the entire board first and compare it to the working one for any missing parts, then do it 3 or 4 more times as it's easy to miss some of those tiny things on there.

Those boards that look brand new but are dead can be difficult to work on. Try the Rest button on it. Then check that Reset button and make sure it's not shorted as that would keep the thing from starting up. After that, depending on what kind of residue was on the thing, comparing it to the working board will be your best bet to try and narrow the issue down, but it probably has a bad PMIC or MCU chip. Could get lucky and have a shorted cap somewhere, as most new things don't up and go boom when they fail now, also makes for tracking down a bad part on a board tons-o-fun sometimes.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on September 08, 2020, 09:50:32 PM
JDM-030

D92003MW - looking a little heating (IR camera). Without battery 100mA power consumption. There is no any voltage at battery connector when USB connected.


Is this dude dead?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 08, 2020, 10:12:10 PM
Should have ~4v on the Battery connector with USB connected, measured with no battery. You can find that chip on Aliexpress and eBay.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on September 08, 2020, 10:57:24 PM
Should have ~4v on the Battery connector with USB connected, measured with no battery. You can find that chip on Aliexpress and eBay.

Yes, I know about voltage. Is this chip charging controller?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 08, 2020, 11:28:20 PM
Yes it's the PMIC on that board.
Title: 0.38 volts on battery terminals
Post by: TheGame1594 on September 13, 2020, 03:50:46 AM
i have a jdm 055 controller here and took a look at it for a friend. i thought it would be easy to fix but guess what.

Here is a summary :

- if i measure the voltage at the battery connector i have just a voltage of 0,38 Volts if the battery is fully charged like 4 volts i get 0,40 Volts and so on.

- i have measured the capacitors for shorts and did find one.
  i thought it was shorted (circled in red) (i removed it and measured it and it is fine no continuity if not on the board )
  the short is on the board where the capacitor sits on. So i put it back in place.

After that i traced from this capacitor where it goes. And the traces seem to go to the black thingy circled in red (what component is this ?) and it has zero ohms so i think this one is gone or the ic but since i dont know what the heck the part is i cannot confirm if it is okay or not.

-I already did a google search but couldn't find the big ic part (s2p6001a) circled yellow on the picture.

It would be nice if there is someone out there that could possibly help me out here with more knowledge of what the heck is going on with this controller.



best regards to all. Did find this forum on google great mods and nice people for controller knowledge


(https://i.ibb.co/TY1Pv7Z/JDM-055-1-982-707-31-Bottom.jpg)




edit:

i did change the text for a better understanding and it is a little shorter version now.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 13, 2020, 04:02:59 AM
The large black part is an Inductor, smaller one is a Cap.

That's not a 6 in the part number, it's S2PG001A. It's the PMIC and a few other things rolled into that chip. You can find it on AliExpress.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TheGame1594 on September 13, 2020, 04:06:32 AM
thanks rdc you are the best. I did read a lot here from you and your knowledge about this kind of things are real impressive.

What do you think is here the culprit ?

i have changed the text for a better understanding maybe you could help me out here ?

what part is this black block?
 :fear:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 13, 2020, 04:12:12 AM
It's the PMIC, Power Management IC, does the battery charging and all the regulation. It also does the Rumble motors, onboard audio and a pile of other crap. https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44645.0.html (https://www.acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44645.0.html)

With that Inductor removed, you should measure a meg or two across the spots on the board where it was. If it's measuring shorted with it removed then that PMIC has died.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TheGame1594 on September 13, 2020, 04:19:59 AM
thanks for the help really appreciate it will try that now
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TheGame1594 on September 13, 2020, 07:09:20 AM
i tryed it now and i dont know what to do with my results now.


i measured the resistance between the coil where it was and the result is fluctuating between 10k and 43k i dont know if this is normal i dont have reference for it.

if i reset the controller it is 10k and goes up until 43k. The coil it self seems odd too it has non to maybe 1 ohms max.


what is now the culprit?


if i had another coil i would try that do someone know which value the coil should have? i could maybe make an inductor for it  to at least try it out :D
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 13, 2020, 07:21:18 AM
Inductors have to be measured with a meter that can check Inductance, it's going to measure close to a short checking it like a Resistor because an Inductor is just a coil of wire.

That Resistance measurement needs to be made with no power applied to the board, USB disconnected and Battery unplugged.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TheGame1594 on September 13, 2020, 07:34:49 AM
hey rdc i know that but since i dont have a meter that can measure Inductance i did the resistance method.

i have installed the coil back and i (re-flowed) but it is still all the same.


the controller sometimes connects to the pc without the battery and it lights in kinds of lights sometimes it is like in a disco.


I still think it could be one of them but not sure which one inductor or ic because of the behavior of the controller. A coil is a little bit like a capacitor it take sometimes a few seconds on the controller until the lights go on. And then it lights in a variety of colors :D.

i appreciate your work and effort and wish you a nice weekend. But i will tell the guy what i did find out if he wants me to fix it or get a new one.


best regards to all of you.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: NeoHoth on January 12, 2021, 12:07:08 AM
Hey! Received a used ps4 controller with JDM 040 board. One component on the board is missing that is shown in red circle on the picture. Could you be so kind to specify what is this component and it?s specs? Thanks in advance!

P.S.: light bar is not working and thumbstics are jittering ?> could be related to this missing component??? :eyebrow: , but it is changing and button presses are registered. I tested this controller?s power board by connecting it to another controller - it is fully working and LED is fine.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tY3KhTSw/39129362-085-C-4-C3-B-B532-AA58-DEE54-C8-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tY3KhTSw)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NKQWbcZM/D7004355-BD9-E-4-FAB-AA23-D7652-AB7-D905.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NKQWbcZM)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 12, 2021, 06:15:49 AM
https://acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44598.0.html
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: cicciotto88 on February 01, 2021, 12:21:45 PM
Hi, I have remapped the 4 buttons x, o, trinagle, and square on a ps4 JDM 011, initially it worker, but after 10 minutes the circle button was permanently pressed, then the x also. I checked for shotrs on ground but there wasn't any. What can be the problem?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 01, 2021, 12:33:58 PM
The first thing to do, is undo whatever you did in there and see if it goes back to working.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: cicciotto88 on February 02, 2021, 04:55:05 AM
yes I have undone everithing, all work fine
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Portu40 on February 18, 2021, 04:13:09 AM
Hello i hace a problem whit my controller 040. It wont pair whit the ps4.
Any help please
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Portu40 on March 12, 2021, 04:05:53 PM
Hello, good night, I have a problem with a 011 model, the ps button does not work. and the membrane is not the problem
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Z3nmur0n on April 18, 2021, 12:01:06 PM
Hello guys. First of all, i beg your pardon for my english, it isn't my first language. =P
Well, some time ago i bought a PS4 controller as original, but i found some months later it was a parallel one, since the analogs started to drift a lot. I ended up buying another one to use and this one was laying here, so i thought about trying to mode it into a scuf controller, and my first doubt was the layout of the PCB, since it's different of all the models i've seen through the web, and i'd like to ask for some advice as to where are mapped the buttons in it, or even if that remapping flex cable could be used in this case (what would be much more convenient), and what model i should use.
I'm leaving the link to some pics i've taken from the front and back of the pcb. If more images or details are needed, i can do it without a problem.
Thanks in advance for any help. :tup:

http://imgur.com/gallery/EzKhhF3
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: wickated on April 18, 2021, 12:06:15 PM
Hello guys. First of all, i beg your pardon for my english, it isn't my first language. =P
Well, some time ago i bought a PS4 controller as original, but i found some months later it was a parallel one, since the analogs started to drift a lot. I ended up buying another one to use and this one was laying here, so i thought about trying to mode it into a scuf controller, and my first doubt was the layout of the PCB, since it's different of all the models i've seen through the web, and i'd like to ask for some advice as to where are mapped the buttons in it, or even if that remapping flex cable could be used in this case (what would be much more convenient), and what model i should use.
I'm leaving the link to some pics i've taken from the front and back of the pcb. If more images or details are needed, i can do it without a problem.
Thanks in advance for any help. :tup:

http://imgur.com/gallery/EzKhhF3
dump this, its useless
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on April 18, 2021, 01:31:20 PM
@ wickated - Your next post can either be helpful, or it can be your last.


@ Z3nmur0n - The SFX or the Remapped may or may not work on that thing. No way to tell that unless I had one of them here to look over and see if the contacts would all line up the same. It looks like that thing is mostly a common ground setup, so it really is just a matter of tracing out the button board and then tracing the motherboard there to find out what TP spot on there is for what.


@ PortU40 - The PS button goes straight to the MCU, so it's the Daughterboard (membrane) or the contacts on it or the contacts on the motherboard or the motherboard has a damaged trace or a bad solder joint at the MCU or a bad or corrupt MCU.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Z3nmur0n on April 18, 2021, 02:38:17 PM
I see. Well, i'll try to find the correct tracks here, and if i have any news or doubt, i'll post here again. Maybe can be useful for anyone else someday.
Well, thx for now RDC!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: monoql21 on June 11, 2021, 12:19:01 PM
Hi, I'm new here. But I have knew this page for a while and it's very helpful so this time I want to do a question.

I was changing the right analog stick from a jdm-011 and accidentally I burned/ripped off a pad. The one in the picture to be specific.


https://pasteboard.co/K69E7G4.jpg


Now, it has a drift problem in the same analog to the same direction (upper right) everytime( i replaced it like 3 times). So, i want to know if this pad has to do something about this problem, Where I would have to bridge this pad to repair it?. I'm still learning and I'm not sure how to follow the traces. When I look that pad looks like a dead end for me.

Thanks for the help!!



Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 11, 2021, 12:37:55 PM
That spot is just for R3, as well as the one directly above it, so as long as that works then it's fine as is.

Drifting is caused by the controller being calibrated at the factory with the original stick in there and then when it gets replaced it's most times a little bit 'off' from that calibration, thus it will drift. Look around the forums here, there are several ways to deal with that drifting issue.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: monoql21 on June 11, 2021, 12:54:15 PM
Yes, the R3 works fine.

Thanks, I'm gonna read in the forums looking for the drifting problem.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Aquiarious89 on June 12, 2021, 11:21:28 AM
Let me know if you find anything I have the same issue
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: LethalPrime on June 12, 2021, 10:01:12 PM
Let me know if you find anything I have the same issue

Try the orange version of these and replace both instead of just one. They don?t last as long as the greens but they have less guess work when you can?t find a green one that works and isn?t from a donor board.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R7RJ4KY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_041TF7XYTPCXNADGBHH5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: demuffin on June 19, 2021, 09:38:32 PM
Hi all,

Does anyone know the values of these 2 components on the JDM-011 board? Thank you in advance!

(https://i.imgur.com/asttX2e.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 19, 2021, 09:55:20 PM
That's not a JDM-011, that's the JDM-001. They are both 10k, 0402.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: demuffin on June 19, 2021, 10:19:00 PM
That's not a JDM-011, that's the JDM-001. They are both 10k, 0402.

Oh right, pardon my mistake. Thanks for the info, really appreciate it!  :laughing:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: 10785740 on June 20, 2021, 03:34:27 AM
Hello, how can I find the button in Jdm-040 board?
Want to wire to joystick.
And make it with LED.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 20, 2021, 04:12:40 AM
You want to do what?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: 10785740 on June 21, 2021, 06:57:12 AM
I want to find the button location and wire to joystick button.(I have a old joystick with 8 button)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 21, 2021, 09:45:57 AM
Do you mean you want to make an arcade stick with that DS4 controller?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: wickated on June 22, 2021, 12:29:29 AM
I want to find the button location and wire to joystick button.(I have a old joystick with 8 button)
no need to find anything onboard since there are additional flex boards like this

https://acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,43790.0.html
https://acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44001.0.html
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: gohan224 on July 17, 2021, 09:16:39 AM
someone know how the red chip in top picture of jdm-020 on left side of the left analog stick is called? it got the number 7710 421a9 written on it. can this chip break charging? I have a controller which can't charge, everything else is fine. changing battery, jds-011, ribbon band didn't help. the chip looks like it missing some part on one edge.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 17, 2021, 01:20:31 PM
https://acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44560.msg334921.html#msg334921
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: MOCCOR on July 26, 2021, 05:53:37 PM
Hi, I have a JDM-055 controller and am trying to figure out which of these is the square button. I saw the post said its slightly different, but in the same spot, but I am not 100% confident. I think it is this one circled in blue but would just like a second opinion before scratching it. Thanks a lot for the info
https://imgur.com/a/bkYOzCV
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 26, 2021, 06:20:07 PM
Just follow pad 18 of the connector, and the first via you come to will be it, and it will not be that one.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: MOCCOR on July 26, 2021, 06:32:23 PM
Just follow pad 18 of the connector, and the first via you come to will be it, and it will not be that one.
I appreciate it, thank you for the help.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TheOneForTheJob on September 14, 2021, 08:28:36 AM
Hi, I wanted to mod a dualshock 4 with back buttons. Now, I use my DS4 on PC using gyro and input remappers and whatnot. So, essentially this means that binding back buttons to face buttons is not the best idea for me and binding it to something like share or options would be better because then I can have 4 actions on my face buttons and also have different actions on my back buttons. Touchpad button would be the most important one because that doesn't take away any buttons because I can map the touchpad button when no touch is detected (back button) to one command and touchpad buttons (left and right side) when touch is detected to 2 seperate actions.

So, best case scenario, I would want touchpad button, options, share, and R3. I know that for the touchpad one I just solder to one of the button's "legs", I think for R3 I need to solder to the far left metal bump and a diagonal one. But I don't know where the vias are for options and share. I don't know if it even is theoretically possible, but if it is I would love to know how thank you.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 15, 2021, 01:31:51 PM
R3 is an active Hi button, so you need to wire you're new button up to both of those connections for the duplicate R3.

The rest are all active Lo and can share the same connection to ground. No idea what version of the controller that you are working on there, so can't specify any best location to solder to, but there is always the connection right at the existing button. Any lead of the button in question, Share, Options, TP that isn't going to ground, is the button line you want.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TheOneForTheJob on September 16, 2021, 02:37:23 AM
I am getting a new one to do this mod on cause my old one broke so it should be jdm-055.

For the R3 which connections are you talking about? The bottom left metal bump and the bump up and right from it?

Does sharing a connection to ground mean that they can't activate together?

I've been having trouble finding it exactly since I'm new to this whole thing. Figured out that the face buttons, dpad, r1 l1 all go through the flex PCB and then connect to the motherboard and then following them you can see the face button visa, but options and share don't go through the flex PCB but I don't have a controller on me to see where it goes to.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TheOneForTheJob on September 16, 2021, 03:55:11 AM
Also, I'm guessing that to get the touchpad button wired I do have to just solder to a "leg" as I suspected?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 16, 2021, 03:02:07 PM
There are 2 leads on the TP button that could be used, only one needs to be connected though, the other 2 will be grounds.

The Options and Share buttons are not on the FPC because they are on the top side of the motherboard in the corners there directly under where the button part you press on is.

For R3, of the the 4 leads for it, just pick 2 that are diagonal on it and you'll have that one done. For example..

x  o

o  x

The only way for the active Lo buttons to register a press is if the button line is grounded. You can share the grounds for those 3 buttons, or run a single wire for each one, it will work the same way.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: TheOneForTheJob on September 17, 2021, 09:44:45 AM
So could I connect the lower left leg of the touchpad button or is that ground?Also do you know which of them are grounds so that I can connect the options and share dupes to the touchpad ground (would mean I can get away with using shorter cables for options and share). Also I can see the vias that is for the options and share button but near the share one there is another little bump which is pretty close. So is it possible that I can solder to the other side of the motherboard or is that not how it works?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: dj_amir on September 21, 2021, 08:40:11 AM
Hi friends
what is this the value?(jdm-050)

https://ibb.co/vd9FYQ1
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: dj_amir on November 04, 2021, 01:06:55 PM
???
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 04, 2021, 01:47:44 PM
4.7uF
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: devilinops on November 12, 2021, 08:42:00 PM
Is there any scans for the various flex pcb?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 12, 2021, 10:48:11 PM
Probably is somewhere, but not on here. Really not much going on there at all, since every button is just a set of contacts that close when the button is pressed. The only even slightly interesting thing about the FPCs are the built in Pull-Up Resistors and variable Resistor contacts for the L2/R2.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: demuffin on November 18, 2021, 10:19:41 PM
Hi all, did anyone had an issue with the controller that doesn't vibrate nor have any LED lights? I have this issue with a JDM-001.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ChrisJavier on March 14, 2022, 08:41:05 PM
Any source for this chip? 011


(https://i.ibb.co/G7dzPk5/download.png)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 15, 2022, 03:04:50 AM
https://acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44560.msg334921.html#msg334921
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ChrisJavier on March 15, 2022, 05:42:02 PM
Thank you! How did you find it btw? Any tips on searching for components? Google did not yield results
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 15, 2022, 11:34:21 PM
Most of the time you can get pretty far at figuring out what something is based on how it's all connected in the circuit and the package it's in, it also doesn't hurt when most of the part number is on the top of it. ;)

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ChrisJavier on March 27, 2022, 10:14:00 AM
Most of the time you can get pretty far at figuring out what something is based on how it's all connected in the circuit and the package it's in, it also doesn't hurt when most of the part number is on the top of it. ;)


Gotcha, thank you.

Another question. Do you happen to know what components are responsible for the led bar of the JDM 001-011? I got a 001 that the led doesn't light up but all else works fine. It lights up yellowish green(?) when charging, but when it connects it turns off the led. I've searched and it appears to be a somewhat common issue, couldn't find a fix though. I've replaced the usb board and the ribbon with no luck.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 27, 2022, 11:17:31 AM
The MCU turns the ground side of each LED on/off via an N channel FET and couple of Resistors. All of those components, the 3 FETs and 6 Resistors total, are grouped around the connector on both sides of the board.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on April 13, 2022, 08:07:40 AM
Hey guys
I need the value for this capacitor, can anyone help me please?

(https://i.postimg.cc/c0RJGwRd/IMG-20220413-183730.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on April 14, 2022, 06:54:10 AM
It's a decoupling cap, the actual value is 100nF, but it could be anything from 1nF to 1uF or even missing and not really make any difference there.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on April 14, 2022, 07:19:33 AM
It's a decoupling cap, the actual value is 100nF, but it could be anything from 1nF to 1uF or even missing and not really make any difference there.

Thanks a lot :)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: south_bridge on May 22, 2022, 03:50:34 AM
Hi guys.
I have some broken DS4.
Please enlight me with value of this marked components.

jdm 001
it was fine until i accidentally broke the smd while replacing left analog. my hand slipped...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYsLpnS4/jdm-001-marked.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gjM5d8Db/jdm-001-error.jpg)
all buttons still works normal. Except R2 L2 completely off.
both analog sticks stays like that no matter what.


jdm 030
(https://i.postimg.cc/xTpDSDxN/jdm-030-marked.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fWxmFMb5/jdm-030-vib-marked.jpg)

It got corrosion but still works.
The only problem is left motor vibration and battery cannot connect.
Caps marked red just fell off with pads when i tried clean with IPA. Yellow is corrotion. I don't know if they still good.
Battery and motor still ok. Tested on another DS4.

Sorry if my questions is not related to topic.
Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: dj_amir on August 14, 2022, 08:45:57 AM
Hi friends
what is this the value?(jdm-030)

https://ibb.co/CvSPRqK
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on August 14, 2022, 09:15:31 AM
Resistor, 100 ohm, 0201 size.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: dj_amir on August 14, 2022, 09:18:30 AM
Thanks :hifive:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: suharec on September 02, 2022, 11:34:13 PM
Good afternoon, please tell me the value of the resistor. JDM-050 board.

https://ibb.co/R0jc6CH
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 03, 2022, 12:39:03 AM
4.7k
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: suharec on September 03, 2022, 12:44:14 AM
Thank you very much
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: rck23 on September 30, 2022, 11:52:19 AM
Are these images from OEM layouts? I noticed many USB charging boards with strange layouts and no components. Trying to figure out if these are not recommended or if they are fine without the parts like the fuse and cap.
Thank you for all this work you did.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 30, 2022, 01:31:17 PM
Welcome.

All of these PCBs are official Sony controllers. I have about 0 interest in the knock off ones, as it's bad enough keeping up with every revision that Sony makes.

The fuse being on there is 50/50, but the rest I'd prefer be on there. The decoupling caps, common mode choke and surge protection. Technically you can get away without them, but you can also not wear your seat belt or lock your car everywhere you go too. ;)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 03:36:07 PM
Hello again guys
After desperately trying to replace my dualshock 4 right analog stick with no proper tools (didn't have a hot air station so i worked with only a soldering iron) i did some damage to the analog stick pinholes and the soldering pads on the board but still managed to replace it and do the soldering.
Everything works fine except the R3 button which acts on its own when i spin the analog, and it's always staying put when i leave it untouched, you can see the R3 button inputs here:

https://files.fm/f/39vyfe9dy

I'm sure the analog stick itself is healthy so anyone having any idea how to resolve this? i don't have the right tools for this and kinda don't want to remove the stick again and causing more damage
I'm assuming some kind of short circuit might causing the problem but i don't know exactly where

Any help would be appreciated
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 05:03:01 PM
Which version of board do you have? or get pics of your board around where you were working on it. I'd guess you probably knocked the 100k Pull-Down Resistor for R3 off there, as that will make R3 act all goofy, but I need to know what version board it is.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
Which version of board do you have? or get pics of your board around where you were working on it. I'd guess you probably knocked the 100k Pull-Down Resistor for R3 off there, as that will make R3 act all goofy, but I need to know what version board it is.

It's jdm 011 version
I took this pic before analog stick installation hopefully it helps

(https://i.ibb.co/PzPSDv8/IMG-20221104-034602.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 05:39:19 PM
Make sure this little guy is still on there first.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/Repair/IMG-20221104-034602_R3_PD.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 05:54:49 PM
Make sure this little guy is still on there first.

I checked it out and it's still there with no damage taken

This is the only obvious component which i broke during the soldering, could this be the problem?

(https://i.postimg.cc/c0RJGwRd/IMG-20220413-183730.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 06:13:21 PM
Nope.

Does the R3 work normally? Press the stick in and it registers?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 06:28:58 PM
Nope.

Does the R3 work normally? Press the stick in and it registers?

It usually does when it backs to a normal state like after playing with it for a while, but most of the time when i turn the controller on or plug it in R3 button acts on its own at the start (like being pressed all the time) just like the video i sent, so strange!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 06:50:47 PM
Measure the Resistance of the R3 button line there to ground.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 07:03:22 PM
Measure the Resistance of the R3 button line there to ground.

I'm so new to these kind of stuff  :laughing:
Can you show me how to do it on the pic please? Just tell me where to put the probs
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 07:10:27 PM
(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/Repair/JDM-011_R3.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 07:25:45 PM
The soldering pad for the red one is completely ripped off, is it ok to connect the prob to the pin itself?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 07:32:59 PM
Use the pin below it, straight down from the red dot.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 07:54:41 PM
Use the pin below it, straight down from the red dot.

Not sure if i did it correctly, but i got 0.05 (the range set on 20k Ω)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 08:05:53 PM
Yeah that's not right, that would mean the R3 line is grounded and in that case it would never work. The proper way to test it would be to remove the stick and check the R3 line again, but, and no offense intended, I'd be concerned about more damage happening to it during that process.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 08:14:39 PM
Yeah that's not right, that would mean the R3 line is grounded and in that case it would never work. The proper way to test it would be to remove the stick and check the R3 line again, but, and no offense intended, I'd be concerned about more damage happening to it during that process.

Yeah you're right. isn't any other option to workaround the problem? i'm mean without removing the stick

UPDATE
When i touch the red dot with my finger R3 act like this:

https://files.fm/u/66z9ywfs2
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 08:24:27 PM
Thing still looks to me like the PD Resistor isn't in circuit and that R3 line is floating. You can try putting a 100k Resistor from the R3 line to Ground and see if that fixes it.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 08:39:16 PM
Thing still looks to me like the PD Resistor isn't in circuit and that R3 line is floating. You can try putting a 100k Resistor from the R3 line to Ground and see if that fixes it.

You mean that little Resistor you mentioned earlier? I guess you're probably right cause when i touch the board around that area (red dot) with my finger everything works flawlessly
Still don't know how to fix it though
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 03, 2022, 08:41:17 PM
Put a 100k Resistor between the 2 dots.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 03, 2022, 08:54:48 PM
Put a 100k Resistor between the 2 dots.

Ok i'll try to do that (need to buy that Resistor first) and will keep you updated.

Thank you so much for taking the trouble to help me. I really appreciate it

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 05, 2022, 08:18:17 AM
UPDATE
I soldered this Resistor (still not soldered in the pic) to those two dots you mentioned, but it didn't solve the problem, and now i don't know why but my L1 button doesn't work anymore even with the Resistor detached!

(https://i.ibb.co/1vVQ7Bs/IMG-20221105-183353.jpg)

I think at this point it's better to give up on this controller
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: LethalPrime on November 05, 2022, 08:47:51 AM
Doesnt look like its actually soldered on looks barely even cold soldered on
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 05, 2022, 09:11:01 AM
^As i said in my post the picture is taken before the soldering
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 05, 2022, 09:33:16 AM
Clean the contacts where the motherboard and Flexible Printed Circuit board (FPC) meet, just use a Q-tip and rubbing alcohol. Also make sure the foam piece is under the contacts of the FPC as it provides pressure on those contacts. Also the controller has to be together for those contacts to make a good connection or the buttons on that FPC will sometimes not work or do weird things.

Make sure where the Resistor is installed it's not interfering with the controller going back together or it's not going to make that connection right either.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Semtex on November 05, 2022, 01:35:45 PM
I did everything you said and it worked! Now everything works perfectly except the L1, i noticed one of the traces in FPC is damaged so i need to replace the whole ribbon. But everything looks good so far.

https://files.fm/u/8wz3583z9

(https://i.ibb.co/ZYwW4pF/IMG-20221105-233045.jpg)

I need to thank you again sir, Couldn't done it without you!
YOU ROCK!?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 05, 2022, 01:42:11 PM
Welcome.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on December 31, 2022, 05:42:04 AM
Hallo, may someone give me the values of 2 resistors and 1 capacitor on the jdm 030 pcb? It's next to the right analog. https://imgur.com/a/avku9zp
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Mbithi on January 05, 2023, 03:03:47 AM
Will that method work on a jdm 055 with the same issue?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Ivanlakersss2016 on January 11, 2023, 03:30:36 AM
Hello, I would like to know what values ​​of smd capacitors this jdm-001 board model has, where the arrows marked in the photo, where the yellow circle is, were lost while resoldering with the heat gun, removing a movement potentiometer. I hope your help, thank you!

(https://i.postimg.cc/8sRXY4hr/photo-2023-01-11-12-24-57.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sRXY4hr)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 11, 2023, 06:51:03 AM
All of them are Resistors.

(https://www.acidmods.com/RDC/DS4/Repair/Ivan_photo_2023.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Ivanlakersss2016 on January 11, 2023, 04:06:26 PM
resistance 0 is like making a bridge with a wire for example, right?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on January 12, 2023, 11:44:28 AM
(https://acidmods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fipic.su%2Fimg%2Fimg7%2Ffs%2Fkiss_1019kb.1673552455.png&hash=1e6bdac9898156586ebed35bd9408e72e944bc67)

Thanks for reply. Can anybody help about values of these two parts?


And one more question. Can I short 5V from black front port to usb 5V port for chargin via USB?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 12, 2023, 01:19:44 PM
@ Ivan - Yes.

@ Zhen - Both are Caps, 100nF and 33pF, neither are really necessary. No idea what that would do with the 5v.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: ZhenyaKa on January 12, 2023, 01:27:26 PM
@ Ivan - Yes.

@ Zhen - Both are Caps, 100nF and 33pF, neither are really necessary. No idea what that would do with the 5v.

Thanx a lot. Will replace BD92003 chip.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Ivanlakersss2016 on January 13, 2023, 09:43:35 AM
I have a problem in my jdm-001 motherboard, from arrow number 1 I need a 100 ohm resistor and it makes it impossible for me to solder to the track because it is very small and not
stick my tin, I had thought of a bridge to arrow number 2 with a small fine wire, it is possible that this track leads to that path or I am wrong, I need help @RDC


(https://i.postimg.cc/62r084HK/photo-2023-01-18-19-04-19.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/62r084HK)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on January 19, 2023, 08:07:56 AM
Those spots are not connected at all. You have to remove the green solder mask and expose the copper trace for the solder to stick to it.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: pingggponggg on March 18, 2023, 12:23:27 PM
Correct me if I?m wrong, but I only see the D-pad R, L, U, D vias labeled for JDM-001. Does anyone have the locations labeled for the four D-pad buttons on all the other DS4 PCBs?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: pingggponggg on March 18, 2023, 09:49:31 PM
Specifically, if someone could please help show me the locations of the D-pad vias for JDM-040, JDM-050, and JDM-055, that would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 19, 2023, 03:50:51 AM
I stopped hunting for all of the vias ages ago as it was killing to many controllers. I made up the SFX to have much easier and larger places to solder to for all of those buttons, so no more vias had to be harmed during the making of controllers. https://acidmods.com/forum/index.php/topic,44001.msg337947.html#msg337947

The -050 D-pad spots have been added, the -055 is the same. The -040, from a quick look, doesn't seem to have one for the DD, so feel free to strip that one down and find out for sure or not.

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: pingggponggg on March 19, 2023, 08:41:35 AM
Thank you so much for adding those vias for the -050 and -055! How much is the SFX and how to I go about getting one if I?m considering it?

Also is there any way to know what JDM you get prior to buying a new DS4?

Sorry for all the questions but this is hopefully my last one for now. I keep seeing all the warnings about potentially damaging the vias when soldering. I recently modded a series x controller with four back buttons with what looks like to be similar sized and spaced vias and I didn?t have any issues. Are the ds4 vias known to be more sensitive and at higher risk of breaking when modding?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on March 21, 2023, 04:29:34 AM
You can PM me about the SFX.

You're not going to know exactly what version it is until you're looking at it.

No idea why you'd solder to vias on the 1914 when it has TP spots for pretty much everything.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Worf on June 10, 2023, 01:49:30 PM
Hello.

JDM 040 with this missing cap, value?
(https://i.postimg.cc/mPL6DYkN/missing-cap.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mPL6DYkN)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 10, 2023, 02:18:02 PM
1uF
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: terminatrix on June 19, 2023, 03:05:06 AM
Hi all,

i have a DS4 using JDM-011 board. The PS button gets stuck randomly. i tried took everything apart and did the cleaning but it didnt help.
and sometimes it starts ok and after 10-20 presses it gets stuck again.
may i know which trace i should check for this issue? thanks a lot
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on June 19, 2023, 05:12:25 AM
Pad 10, goes to a jumper Resistor (0 ohm) that is just to the left of the oval hole there at pad 1. Then there is a Capacitor to ground on that line before it goes to the MCU.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on July 08, 2023, 07:51:27 AM
Hallo, does anyone know the value of this resistor and if its critical? Thank you in advance! :tup:
https://imgur.com/a/fxjGwhP
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 08, 2023, 08:07:57 AM
100k, L3 will act up with it missing.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on July 08, 2023, 09:13:39 AM
100k, L3 will act up with it missing.
Thanks! :victory:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on July 08, 2023, 01:50:05 PM
May someone give me the value of this capacitor on the Jdm 030 board. Thanks!
https://imgur.com/a/bzfs8sR
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on July 08, 2023, 11:51:44 PM
It's just one of the decoupling caps on the 3.2v rail. You could put anything from 1nf to 1uF there and it would be fine, or even just leave it off and you'll never notice it missing.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on July 09, 2023, 11:55:08 AM
It's just one of the decoupling caps on the 3.2v rail. You could put anything from 1nf to 1uF there and it would be fine, or even just leave it off and you'll never notice it missing.
Many thanks! :victory:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: poot on July 31, 2023, 06:00:07 PM
Hi. I've got a JDS-030 DS4 controller that will not connect or charge through the micro USB port. I've replaced the USB board but I still have the same issue. The controller works wireless and will charge through the bottom port. I bought this used so I'm not sure what caused this issue. My guess is the previous owner used a fast charger on it. Anybody run across this issue before?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on August 23, 2023, 02:37:17 AM
Hallo guys, I replaced both analog sticks on my JDM-030. I screwed up the left analog a little bit. Anyway everything works expect the L3 button. Its all the time pressed. Here a photo of the my pcb: https://imgur.com/a/OpwRZ8r?fbclid=IwAR1K_LhQvsrY0whyDnzGykklDdpjRgzkMjyaOdrRcHYGrnWL3Sx8WVHb36U

Edit: pretty dumb question. I fixed it  :tup:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on August 24, 2023, 04:31:42 PM
@ poot - The little 5 pin chip just under the connector for the cable that goes to the small USB board can go bad. It's a surge protection chip for the USB data lines and if it goes bad it will not connect over USB. You can remove it and test, not going to hurt it being off the board.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: poot on August 24, 2023, 11:47:56 PM
thanks for the response!
i removed the chip but still no connection. i'm assuming it's integral to the circuit because it won't connect with it off the board either. any idea what that transistor is? if it's possible to replace i'd give it a shot.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on August 25, 2023, 12:25:50 AM
If it doesn't work with it missing, then replacing it isn't going to fix anything either. It's not 'in' the USB data lines, rather sits 'on' them, so removing it does nothing to the data lines except remove the protection. It's some kind of TVS or steering diode array, haven't been able to cross the markings on it for a comparison. There's probably a handful or more in that package that would do the job.

The smaller 4 pin device in pretty much the same location is a Common Mode choke, and that one is 'in' the data lines and needs to be on there to pass the signals thru.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: poot on August 25, 2023, 05:39:17 PM
ok i see. i'll have to recheck that filter then. thanks for your help.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Lord-Kamina on September 12, 2023, 03:34:41 AM
Hi everyone, new here.

I was trying to desolder the stupid tin-vibranium on the analogs and accidentally knocked this (I think it was a cap) off. I then foind it and promptly lost it again. Anyone know what it is, value and maybe where to find a replacement?

Thanks!


(https://i.imgur.com/1BWznd2.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 12, 2023, 08:04:48 AM
That's not the only Cap you've knocked off the board. Bottom right of your pic, another one is missing.

The one you have circled is just a decoupling Cap on the 3.2v rail, not going to hurt a thing with it missing. If you want to replace it you can really put anything in there form 1nF to 1uF and it will work.

The other one is 1uF, but that isn't a critical value either.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Lord-Kamina on September 12, 2023, 02:03:36 PM
You're right I hadn't noticed! Actually, I have two boards because I was trying to make one working controller out of two. The other one is the one I actually ended uo assembling (so I took the circled cap and put it in the other but was allowing for the fact I might have soldered it wrong, considering how tiny it is)

I'll have to look better at the other under magnification to see if anything else looks off.

Currently, the controller turns on the charging light and seemingly turns on (or tries to at least), but doesn't connect to the console and/or fails in some way and no input is registered. When I press the PS button ( connected via USB), the light flashes somewhat rapidly and then goes back to the yellow charging light

Any idea what might cause that?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on September 12, 2023, 02:11:59 PM
Just remove that Cap, a short there isn't going to do it any good and it will be fine missing.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: youspoes on October 19, 2023, 12:31:14 AM
So did you ever find the JDM-040 VIAS for Square, Circle etc ?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: dcthemvp on November 05, 2023, 05:54:50 PM
Hey RDC, you seem to have all the answers, but I can?t find the one I?m looking for unless I?m missing something. Do you or anyone know where I can find a scan that details the touchpad solder points on either the pcb or the touchpad itself? I?d like to solder back buttons to different touchpad inputs and map them via ds4 windows. JDM-055. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 06, 2023, 01:03:28 AM
The Touchpad does not work that way. It's an I2C device that the controller MCU communicates with to get the position it's being touched.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: dcthemvp on November 06, 2023, 11:17:36 AM
Alright, so unfortunately I?m stuck with just touchpad button that my remap kit is already programmed to, correct? I guess I?ll just make a back button that uses the PS button instead.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Worf on November 08, 2023, 10:15:46 AM
Hi.

JDM-030 board. Value of this small cap?


(https://i.postimg.cc/fkvhpmpH/JDM-030-1-980-146-11-Top-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fkvhpmpH)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on November 17, 2023, 03:13:16 AM
Hello guys,

JDM-030 board. What's the value of this capacitor?...is it critical?
https://imgur.com/a/kWOf2dU
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 17, 2023, 09:01:23 AM
@ Worf - I had 2 of those things frak off on me trying to measure them. Not a lot to hold onto with those 0201 sized components. When I get another -030 to check and feel I need the frustration, I'll update this.

@ Blackopso - Not really critical, just a decoupling cap on the Battery + line. You could put 1uf to 100uF there or leave it.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on November 17, 2023, 11:43:34 AM
@ Worf - I had 2 of those things frak off on me trying to measure them. Not a lot to hold onto with those 0201 sized components. When I get another -030 to check and feel I need the frustration, I'll update this.

@ Blackopso - Not really critical, just a decoupling cap on the Battery + line. You could put 1uf to 100uF there or leave it.

Thx :victory:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on November 20, 2023, 05:32:08 AM
Hello,
an other one...
Values of these three capacitors? Are they critical?
https://imgur.com/a/DlH0qNe
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 20, 2023, 08:51:40 AM
I haven't traced that board out, but it looks like they might be on the lines going the EXT port there, the one that is part of the headset connector. One side of each is going to ground, so they are just decoupling. If you don't use the EXT port, or only use if for charging with a Station/Dock, then it'll probably be fine with them missing.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on November 21, 2023, 12:11:44 AM
Ok thanks  :greedy:
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on November 23, 2023, 02:50:52 AM
Hello,
So I got a functional JDM-030 board on which I removed these three components. https://imgur.com/a/avku9zp
I wanted to measure them because I need it. For the capacitor I got 121.5 nF. But for the resistors I don't get any value. My multimeter works properly because I checked it on a 100k resistor and it shows the correct value. But on these two resistors I don't get any value. What does that mean?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 23, 2023, 07:56:34 AM
Means they were possibly broken on removal, or they might not be Resistors. Only have one -030 here to check, and it already has them removed. Couldn't even guess when that was done, or why I did it, so I might have posted that info around here, somewhere.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on November 23, 2023, 11:40:43 AM
What else could it be if not resistors?
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 23, 2023, 12:01:24 PM
Caps would be the best guess if they have one side going to ground and measure open with the meter when removed. Possibly ESD protection, but they are typically in a little different package.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on November 24, 2023, 05:45:54 AM
Yes, I have removed the already to measure them but as I said I don't get any value. I also don't get any value for capacitance. Maybe I really damaged them while removing but I don't know how. The capacitor works properly and both resistors are damaged. Anyway thanks for your input.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on November 24, 2023, 05:23:29 PM
You said they didn't measure any Resistance, didn't specify any other testing.

Hello,
But for the resistors I don't get any value. My multimeter works properly because I checked it on a 100k resistor and it shows the correct value. But on these two resistors I don't get any value. What does that mean?

Found another board here, and around 47pF is what they measure on each one. But, given where they are, I'd say they aren't Caps and are more likely MOVs, aka ESD protection, which is just going to measure open or some low capacitance value unless they are bad.
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: Blackopso on November 26, 2023, 12:04:36 PM
I tried to measure resistance and capacitance. For both I got open loop. I also tested for continuity and I also got OL. TVS diode means for me I will give up. Anyway thanks for your help!!!!
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: MOCCOR on February 29, 2024, 12:08:20 PM
Does anybody have a pinout for this JDS-055 connector or know where this pin with the blue arrow should go? I stupidly ruined this connector a while ago but I learned a lot since then and I want to fix it up with USB C. I have no problem scrapping away the green coating to find a new spot to solder to but without the pin I am unsure where it leads, thanks for any info

(https://i.imgur.com/BGPTeLj.jpg)
Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: RDC on February 29, 2024, 08:16:08 PM
5v, D-, D+, ID, GND

You're pretty much pointing to where it goes, nowhere, as it's not used. ;)

Title: Re: DualShock 4 Controller PCB scans
Post by: MOCCOR on February 29, 2024, 09:20:25 PM
5v, D-, D+, ID, GND

You're pretty much pointing to where it goes, nowhere, as it's not used. ;)

After posting this I kept searching around and thinking about it, and then I began to think that same thing. I assume if it went somewhere else it would have needed a via right? Thanks for the response
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