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Title: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 18, 2008, 02:47:48 PM
DIGG THIS (http://digg.com/xbox/Redesigning_the_360_Controller_no_buttons)

Redesigning the 360 Controller is very easy to do with the simple tools like fiberglass resen and bondo body filler... There are many reasons to do this comfort, gaming edge, handicapted, or just for the fun of it.. in the first part we will look at the phisical part of this mod shaping the controller for the new electronics to fit.. In part two of the tutorial we will show how to re-map the analog sticks..In part Three we will introduce a secret chip and show how to add some of our other chips like rapid fire and rapid reload.. In the final Part we will look at the finished product..

Most Parts will either be added to the shop Also you can get some insane Rapid fire kits Here

Tools needed:

1: Fiberglass Mat
2: Fiberglass Resen
3: Bondo body Filler
4: 80,400,1000,2000 SandPaper Wet/Dry
5: Dremel or cutting tool
6: Primer heavy scratch fill type
7: Paint of desired color
8: Mini paint brushes
9: Xtra faceplate from coolmods.co.uk


From a second controller cut out the right side analog stick on out side of the ring and sand down so it looks like this with the 80 grit sand paper..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace3.png)

Now on another controller cut out the D-Pad location on the inner circle and sand smooth also cut away the left analog to fill later..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace2.png)

Now what you will notice it the outer diameter of the analog fits in the inner diameter of the removed D-pad location Thank you Microsoft.. Move it around till it fits perfect

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace.png)

Now sand the entire controller down with the 80 grit sand paper so the fiberglass has somthing to adhere to..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace4.png)

Now for the fiberglass work... (This Is very Dangerous stuff.. Do outside supervised.) you will need to mix the resen with the activater per the container directions. Make sure you have everything ready as you will have very little time to work with this material... once mixed brush some on the controller place the fiberglass mat on the controller the brush more resen on the mas working out all the air bubbles..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace5.png)

Once fiberglass hass cured (about 5 minutes) shape the controller with the 80 grit sandpaper...Repeat Fiberglass and Shaping untill you get the desired resultes dont panic about the minor dips and imperfections we will fix those later..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace6.png)

Next shoot the primer about 8 inches form the controller 3 thick coats allow 24 hours to cure..Once cured sand down with the 400 grit sand paper and look for the imperfections..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace7.png)

Now mix up the Bondo and the mix solution per the container instructions.. Apply Bondo to the dips and imperfections let cure for (about 1/2 hour) and sand smooth with the 80 Grit sand paper.. Repeat the Primer and the bondo process as many times as needed to get a smooth surface usualy about 3 times.

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace8.png)

Shoot the controller With 3 more coats of primer and let cure for 24 hours... It should look really nice now..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace9.png)

I already moved the analog stick on the mobo (Tutorial comming soon.) im testing the fit in this picture before I paint the controller..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSFace10.png)

Ok after about five sprays of flat black and alot of wet sanding here is the finished paint job...

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSUTIL1.png)


(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSUTIL2.png)


(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSUTIL3.png)

Here is a picture of the lower digital joysticks

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/FPSUTIL4.png)


(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/joy.png)
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 18, 2008, 03:40:55 PM
Part two relocating the analog Stick


Step one you will need a desoldering tool like the one pictured

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step1.png)

Next you will need to remove the trigger potentiometer and assembly you will need to desolder the three points then pull the trigger off..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step2.png)

Now you will notice the points on the back of the controller for the analog stick. you will need to desolder all 14 points..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step3.png)

Six points are for the two potentiometers, Four points are for the push down button, and the last four are for supporting the analog stick to the PCB.

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step4.png)

Here you can see with the desoldering tool the analog stick comes off cleanly..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step5.png)

Once the analog stick is removed you will need to clip off the four support post and bend the 10 pins to the side ..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step6.png)

As you can see I place some duel sidded sticky tape on the bottom to allow for placement on the PCB.

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step7.png)

Now I placed the analog stick in its new position where the D-pad used to be..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step8.png)

Next solder wires to all pins so they make contact to there original positions. As you can see here I only soldered three wires of the 10 needed to be soldered..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step9.png)

Finaly solder the trigger assemble back to its original position...
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 18, 2008, 03:41:50 PM
The Final Tut Will be Posted Tonight



In the mean time check out this rapid Fire

3 mode Dual Rapid fire and 3 mode COD4 Edition [rapidreload / rapidfire ] "Instock Now"
100 kits only for the first batch ETA 10/03/08   :tup:
2nd Batch EAT 10/24/08  :tup:

Get your kits now at  Acidmods ShopUSA (https://www.acidmods.com/shopusa)

Here is the Video For 3 mode Dual Rapid fire kit & COD4 Edition RapidReload 3 Mode kit


Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 18, 2008, 03:42:08 PM




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Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 18, 2008, 04:23:49 PM
More comming this weekend
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Winterz117 on October 19, 2008, 10:12:30 AM
ooh im really exited to see finished great work man
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: redryno1221 on October 19, 2008, 01:02:41 PM
can't wait to see how it turns out :)

Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 20, 2008, 04:12:43 PM
wow this looks great :rofl: Can't wait for my new black controlelr to come in a few days im going to definately do this whole set of tutorials to it. Will all of the tutorials be up in the next week?
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 21, 2008, 03:45:37 AM
wow this looks great :rofl: Can't wait for my new black controlelr to come in a few days im going to definately do this whole set of tutorials to it. Will all of the tutorials be up in the next week?

hopfully
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 21, 2008, 07:39:26 AM
Sweet.How much is that fiberglass resin and bondo anyways??
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 21, 2008, 07:48:41 AM
Sweet.How much is that fiberglass resin and bondo anyways??

$10 each I will post more tonight hopfully..
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: whitetop on October 21, 2008, 07:54:32 AM
great work this mite help some people how to spay as well
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Winterz117 on October 21, 2008, 11:55:26 AM
yeah dude im doing this i cant wait to see what the new chip does :)
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 21, 2008, 01:14:26 PM
think u could just give us a hint about the chip ><
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Winterz117 on October 21, 2008, 03:50:25 PM
lol just wait till he announces it
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 21, 2008, 05:28:18 PM
Hey could you give clearer instructions on cutting out the right analog and d pad because yours looks like it was cut perfectly like it just came apart or something
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 22, 2008, 03:28:41 AM
Hey could you give clearer instructions on cutting out the right analog and d pad because yours looks like it was cut perfectly like it just came apart or something
ok I will take some photo's
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 22, 2008, 06:16:52 AM
k thanx
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Tec_ on October 22, 2008, 06:37:15 AM
Take a look at evercoat everglass its so much better than bondo. It flexes, ware as if you were to torque bondo it would crack. Its easer to sand and it cures much faster than bondo. Just a tip I wish I would have had before I started working with bondo.
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 22, 2008, 06:51:55 AM
Take a look at evercoat everglass its so much better than bondo. It flexes, ware as if you were to torque bondo it would crack. Its easer to sand and it cures much faster than bondo. Just a tip I wish I would have had before I started working with bondo.
Thanks Tec_
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 22, 2008, 12:04:00 PM
Is that tutorial you planned on putting up last night ganna be up tonight? :beg:
I wish you wouldnt of posted this until you had it all done because I have no thing else to do but sit here and think about how it is goign to look and keep checking if youve posred mroe about it or not  :laughing:
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 22, 2008, 12:15:05 PM
Is that tutorial you planned on putting up last night ganna be up tonight? :beg:
I wish you wouldnt of posted this until you had it all done because I have no thing else to do but sit here and think about how it is goign to look and keep checking if youve posred mroe about it or not  :laughing:

yes more to come I got blocked by wife last night...
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 22, 2008, 12:20:31 PM
hey your one of the lucky ones out of us that get to get blocked by a wife  :hifive:
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 22, 2008, 05:02:19 PM
added one picture
 more comming soon
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 22, 2008, 07:45:23 PM
How soon ><
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 23, 2008, 03:23:06 AM
How soon ><

I did the work over at Play N Trade shop I used there camamra im waiting for rich to email them to me...
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 23, 2008, 06:37:31 AM
aww i was hoping for last night but guess not
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 27, 2008, 03:46:40 PM
whats happening with this?
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Alien_X on October 28, 2008, 01:23:00 AM
On behalf of everyone I Would like to say:

FAAAKKKEE

 :taunt:
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 28, 2008, 07:17:53 AM
are u serious :confused: naa ur lyeing if it fake i will have to stab somebody just giving everyone a heads up. I thinkk system might just be w8ing to do something before he posts more maybe hopefully :beg:
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SN!P3R on October 28, 2008, 07:23:20 AM
LOL, Corona in the 5th pic

but nice mod!
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 31, 2008, 05:06:56 AM
I did not forget I actualy shot it with some flat black paint last night. I still need to wet sand it and assemble also waiting for code to be done...
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 31, 2008, 08:09:38 AM
ah I thought you had said before you had the part 2 already done you just needed to post it
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 31, 2008, 08:55:46 AM
ah I thought you had said before you had the part 2 already done you just needed to post it

I do im just finishing the paint tut
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 31, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
ah k
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 31, 2008, 03:53:29 PM
updated picture
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on October 31, 2008, 04:04:45 PM
looks freaking sweet are there any extra leds in it or did you change the smds at least? lol also i thought you were going to post part 2 of the tutorial before you put more pics
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on October 31, 2008, 04:12:23 PM
looks freaking sweet are there any extra leds in it or did you change the smds at least? lol also i thought you were going to post part 2 of the tutorial before you put more pics

part two is comming :D
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on November 02, 2008, 02:08:57 PM
they moved this under rapidfire controllers...
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 02, 2008, 02:18:27 PM


360 Controllers / 306 Rapid Fire Controllers
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on November 02, 2008, 05:43:46 PM
ah i see now
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 03, 2008, 05:08:33 PM
Part two posted
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on November 03, 2008, 05:22:40 PM
awesome!!! I have a couple questions though.

1. To do this complete tutorial do you have to be using the same motherboard as you?

2. Have you gotten the secrety code from mike yet? If you have when can we expect the next part?

3. Can you give us a hint on what the secret chip is goign to do? please  :beg: Or just pm me and I won't tell anyone else :rofl: Unless they offer me money  :greedy: or a psp 1000  :tup:
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 03, 2008, 05:28:16 PM
awesome!!! I have a couple questions though.

1. To do this complete tutorial do you have to be using the same motherboard as you?

2. Have you gotten the secrety code from mike yet? If you have when can we expect the next part?

3. Can you give us a hint on what the secret chip is goign to do? please  :beg: Or just pm me and I won't tell anyone else :rofl: Unless they offer me money  :greedy: or a psp 1000  :tup:

1: no any board will work

2: not yet

3: analog
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on November 03, 2008, 05:56:40 PM
when i said give us a hint i meant tell us completely :) I sux at puzzles  :sadno: I have no idea what you could be doing with the analogs.
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 06, 2008, 04:17:52 PM
video posted
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on November 06, 2008, 05:11:45 PM
the vid needed more light. I couldnt even see the buttons on the backside of the controller. Also you didnt show us what the chip does or anything :(
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on November 06, 2008, 05:32:58 PM
ah k nice, I still cant see too good because it is too dark or something, but what do those rear analogs do? do they just function the same as the front ones? Also i cant tell are the abxy buttons bac kthre or not its too dark i cant tell
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 06, 2008, 05:37:14 PM
ah k nice, I still cant see too good because it is too dark or something, but what do those rear analogs do? do they just function the same as the front ones? Also i cant tell are the abxy buttons bac kthre or not its too dark i cant tell

the rear joysticks are for face buttons and d-pad
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: robin1989 on November 07, 2008, 07:18:56 AM
DIGG THIS (http://digg.com/xbox/Redesigning_the_360_Controller_no_buttons)

Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Soulshudder on November 07, 2008, 11:28:35 AM
That is sweet  :tup: you should also do one were both joysticks are at the top. also are you going to be selling already finished ones eventually? keep up the awesome work.
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 07, 2008, 11:34:19 AM
That is sweet  :tup: you should also do one were both joysticks are at the top. also are you going to be selling already finished ones eventually? keep up the awesome work.

I will take some more pictures tonight to finish the tutorial....
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on November 07, 2008, 11:59:21 AM
w8 so the rear joysticks act as abxy and d pad? so there are no new abxy buttons on the back.
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 07, 2008, 12:13:59 PM
w8 so the rear joysticks act as abxy and d pad? so there are no new abxy buttons on the back.
'
yes no buttons on the back
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 07, 2008, 03:47:20 PM
added picture..
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: StealthedHunter on November 07, 2008, 10:18:35 PM
thats strange im not sure how much i would like that
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: SYSTEM aka (Cyberpyrot) on November 08, 2008, 04:09:17 AM
thats strange im not sure how much i would like that

it actualy works great.. I will make a better video of a faster game halo is real glitchy
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Soulshudder on November 30, 2008, 08:39:42 PM
Are you going to finish the tutorial soon I am really curious how the rest of the controller is done. It's rather cool  :tup:
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Soulshudder on December 15, 2008, 09:43:55 AM
Is this mod dead? :( or is it just taking a bit to iron out some kinks?
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: xxStormBringerxx on January 13, 2009, 01:56:42 PM
will this controller be for sale
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Modded Matt on January 14, 2009, 08:31:40 AM
will this controller be for sale

I beilieve it has already sold
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: MMorbid on August 28, 2009, 07:22:34 AM
I can not find the digital joysticks ANYWHERE! Ive been looking for 3 days. could anyone possibly point me in the right direction? It would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Tenac on December 18, 2009, 09:43:31 AM
I'm doing this to my controller, but your second post is missing the pictures, which are pretty important considering the way you typed out your second post.  I'd be extremely thankful if you would reupload them.

And also, did you ever consider that the 2 analog sticks might be too close together when it is done?  At first I was considering doing this:
http://www.blogcdn.com/xbox.joystiq.com/media/2008/07/conmod1-7108.jpg (http://www.blogcdn.com/xbox.joystiq.com/media/2008/07/conmod1-7108.jpg)
But I realized it would be much harder to get used to aiming in FPS games, and yours would be much easier on the thumbs.
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: laxboy on December 18, 2009, 02:02:54 PM
those pictures were lost in the  server change
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Tenac on December 18, 2009, 06:13:34 PM
those pictures were lost in the  server change
:(

this type of controller never seemed to get anywhere, I have only seen 2 of them ever, but to me I can't believe everyone doesn't have one, it looks sooo much nicer and easier to use!
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Modded Matt on January 07, 2010, 05:13:51 PM
I am the man!!!! pics have been restored, it is a glich in the directory leftover from the server change over. but it has now been corrected
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Gleasonator on August 04, 2012, 04:51:18 PM
I apologize for bumping such an old thread, but I'm interested in doing something similar and I was hoping someone could clarify on this.

Now I placed the analog stick in its new position where the D-pad used to be..

(https://www.acidmods.com/images/FPS/step8.png)

Because the analog stick is housed in metal parts, what exactly is allowing for it to be placed over the D-pad contacts without it completing those circuits and having those buttons act as though they're pressed? What's preventing it from bridging any of the electrical parts below it in general?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: Phantom on August 05, 2012, 03:37:57 AM
The bottom of the analog is all plastic, you will just need to bend up the 4 legs of the metal housing
Title: Re: Redesigning the 360 Controller Tutorial
Post by: reign512 on August 21, 2012, 05:43:27 PM
would the controller still work if i leave the 4 buttons on the right side of the controller?

i just want to move the left stick to where the dpad was and also leave the 4 buttons in the same place
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