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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2017, 03:57:31 AM »
Can you tell me a fast running on this new controller?

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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2017, 06:00:00 AM »
I have no idea what you are asking for there.
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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2017, 10:27:39 AM »
Does a rapid fire exist on this new controller model?

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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2017, 11:09:39 AM »
I have no idea, cRapid Fire is not really my thing. I do, however, like figuring out problems, and I'm trying to get in contact with SethMods to try and figure out what is going on with all of this and see if it is the controller or the code causing it.

What game or games are you testing with there? as I would not rule it out either.
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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2017, 01:50:29 AM »
I'm using the game call of duty black ops.

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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2017, 09:11:25 AM »
You have some news?

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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2017, 01:23:12 PM »
Hey RDC,

Any chance you know what the values are of the capacitors on these boards?

I've got a duff controller here which isn't powering on off either batteries or usb. Noticed after having it plugged in that the dpad was starting to get toasty.

Looking at other stuff online indicates that on the older models it's the capacitor at c30 pulling the 5v to ground that is playing up. Most people seem to be able to just remove it without issue but of course it's there for a reason

Just dipping my toe back in to tinkering with broken electronics

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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2017, 04:44:50 PM »
Most of the caps are just decoupling, for filtering the DC, and the exact value isn't going to be really critical.

C30 on the 1708 version Power/Button board is a 16uF, 0805 that's probably rated at 10v or more.
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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2017, 04:55:27 PM »
Brilliant, cheers mate know what I'm ordering now :)

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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2017, 05:53:23 AM »
hello to all, sorry for the question but if i want duplicate all 4 top button can i use the same GND for each one:

A) TP21-TP22 (MCU)

B) TP41 (MCU)-TP22 (MCU)

X) TP22-TP22 (MCU)

Y) TP23-TP22 (MCU).
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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2017, 06:54:06 AM »
Yes
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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2017, 08:42:04 AM »
In trying to add scuf type buttons I have managed to lift the pad of the B button TP41.  Does anybody know if this is repairable?  :help:  I would be eternally grateful!

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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2017, 01:54:25 PM »
Prep the Via that is just below/right of TP41, solder a short jumper wire to it and then follow that trace up and solder the other end of the wire to the bottom side of R29.
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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2017, 12:10:21 PM »
Hi guys. I came in possession of 4x new controllers 1708. All have exactly the same issue: on USB cable they work perfect, but no power on battery. Nobody opened before so it seems like a common problem on these. I attempted repair and checked the (+) power line and could not find any break up to Q9. There is 3v power on the power button. I've replaced U1, U2, U3 but problem still not solved. I've spend hours searching for missing or blown components on the board and could not find any visible damage. Please help me solve this? It's honestly killing me and as usual the solution is just around the corner..... thank you. :beg: The power board is the issue.
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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2017, 02:28:04 PM »
No power with the PnC battery pack? New AA batteries? or both are a no go?

Have you confirmed the Power board is the issue by replacing it with one from a know working 1708 controller?

My 1708 board is stripped clean, or I'd start poking around in there looking for that problem. Right now all I can do is schematic it out and give you some ideas on where to look.

I'll have to trace out the 1708 and see if they did anything different, but on the 1537 Q9 gets the power good signal from the MCU board thru D26. If D26 was open you'd have issues, but not sure as of yet if it would effect the USB power.

Q7 is the first place I'd start though, provided a know working board powers up with batteries fine so the issue is for sure known to be on the Power board.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2017, 02:28:55 PM by RDC »
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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2017, 03:17:19 AM »
Hi RDC. Thank's for a quick reply.
I use just regular batteries for testing, the Duracell ones that came with controllers. I confirm that batteries are not the problem.

Yes, I confirm that the issue is the power board, all MCU boards are perfect with a working powerboard.

D26 replaced but still not working.

I was reading the forum for solutions and fount that the pin 4 on J1 should have 3V. What happens is: when I push the power button 3V appears on pin 4 for a few seconds and the soooowly drops down.

I lost a lot of time and hope trying to repair this and I will try any ideas that would come to your mind.
Thank you

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Re: XB1 Controller PCB Scans, Traces and Info - 1708 "Slim"
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2017, 08:07:02 AM »
What have you replaced U1, U2 and U3 with?

Pin 4 of J1 should have 3.3v on it, as it's the output of U3 and that one powers just about everything. That's on a working controller of course.

U2 just provides the 3.5v for the Rumble motors, and U1 is only in there to knock down the USB 5v to around 3v.

Make sure L4 is on the board, and if it is, make sure that it's not cracked, has one side not soldered or measures open.

Now that I'm thinking on it, the issue could be that U4 has crapped the bed also and is loading down or almost shorting the 3.3v rail. Take one of those boards and just remove U3 and see if it will power up normally then.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2017, 08:17:12 AM by RDC »
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