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Offline Nemesis

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2008, 12:14:57 PM »
the video xboxexpert made indeed looks promising in which to accuse the mod is fake, but tact switches have "terminals" or as they may be called, im sure you know this, if the wiring of these "terminals" to the switch is wrong, then the mod will not work. i know this from experience, i have done a different rapid fire mod in which i got these wires wrong and did not work, swapped it and there you go.

EDIT: i dont make this up, i simply pass on what i learn from others.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?s=16a71f02ff0269d36d64bb872a03999d&showtopic=653455&st=0

scroll down to above where the cg code is. better yet ill quote.

"Switch/push button:
The wire from the 1k that goes to pin 4 goes to one side
One of the wires from pin 1 goes to the other
(if you're using the tact switch each side of the switch has a neg and pos)"

« Last Edit: July 28, 2008, 12:18:37 PM by Nemesis »

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2008, 12:15:54 PM »
That too :taunt:

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2008, 12:17:09 PM »
You do realize it's you against a whole site, right? And you're accusing an ADMIN of being a liar, correct? And let me get this straight. You run a site and you make rapid fire controllers for people, right? It FIGURES. Just stfu before you really piss off an admin.
You're forgetting about WIRED controllers too. He's right just give it UP.

Now your talking about WIRED CONTROLLER?!?!?!!?  In his VIDEO he's using wireless Controllers....now your just going off topic!  I just COMPLETELY bypassed the Tact switch and went direct with the controller on.  In theory it would AUTOMATICALLY "Rapid fire" when I touched the wire direct from the LED to the Middle controller leg....NEW STYLE - 1 SHOT  ---  OLD STYLE - NOTHING...

Please correct me if I'm WRONG here!
« Last Edit: July 28, 2008, 12:19:27 PM by Xboxexpert »
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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #63 on: July 28, 2008, 12:18:54 PM »
You sir, are STUPID. He said "I never said it works on ALL controllers" and you said that's only new and old version. You forgot about the wired controllers. This mod would work on them too possibly. Like he said, he never said it works on ALL controllers.

Please correct me if I'm WRONG here!
You've been wrong, and we have been correcting you. :taunt:
« Last Edit: July 28, 2008, 12:21:19 PM by PspKicks316 »

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #64 on: July 28, 2008, 12:20:28 PM »
Now your talking about WIRED CONTROLLER?!?!?!!?  In his VIDEO he's using wireless Controllers....now your just going off topic!

you are forgetting the many different version boards there are on both wired and wireless controller. there are 2 wired version boards and 2 wireless version boards, these are all the model controllers. kingmike stated that he did not say it worked on all these version boards

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #65 on: July 28, 2008, 12:20:46 PM »
You sir, are STUPID. He said "I never said it works on ALL controllers" and you said that's only new and old version. You forgot about the wired controllers. This mod would work on them too possibly. Like he said, he never said it works on ALL controllers.

I really don't understand where your getting off calling me names when I haven't attacked you once.  Just get off the keyboard and go try this yourself...then give me your input.
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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #66 on: July 28, 2008, 12:22:08 PM »
READ THE :censored:ING TOPIC. I won't be :censored:ing home until the end of the week, when I WILL BE DOING THIS.

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #67 on: July 28, 2008, 12:23:06 PM »
you are forgetting the many different version boards there are on both wired and wireless controller. there are 2 wired version boards and 2 wireless version boards, these are all the model controllers. kingmike stated that he did not say it worked on all these version boards

Okay...You've got a good point...I've got a whole box of about 20 brand new controllers...I'm just going to sit here opening each one and trying this until I get one to work....In theory I'm really going to stop after like 5 though.

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READ THE :censored:ING TOPIC. I won't be :censored:ing home until the end of the week, when I WILL BE DOING THIS.

Okay then from someone who JUST TRIED it to someone who ISNT EVEN HOME OR HAS ACCESS TO A CONTROLLER...Please stop talking.

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #68 on: July 28, 2008, 12:25:00 PM »
See? You were wrong. I said that, and you said you were right. Now more people are saying it, and you finally admit you're WRONG. >_>;;

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #69 on: July 28, 2008, 12:26:10 PM »
Okay...You've got a good point...I've got a whole box of about 20 brand new controllers...I'm just going to sit here opening each one and trying this until I get one to work....In theory I'm really going to stop after like 5 though.

you can check if the controller if an old style board before opening it, under the batter terminal if it says "tp19" then its an old style board, something like that, let me double check
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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2008, 12:27:14 PM »
Old Style I used TP19
New Style I used TP26
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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #71 on: July 28, 2008, 12:28:10 PM »
you can check if the controller if an old style board before opening it, under the batter terminal if it says "tp19" then its an old style board
I'm guessing TP23 means new style then? I've got 2 new here then, and a 3rd unknown at home. I'll do all 3.

Old Style I used TP19
New Style I used TP26
What? Ok the 2 controllers here I have, 1 I see TP23 and TP21, the other I see TP23. Which are they?

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #72 on: July 28, 2008, 12:29:29 PM »
I'm guessing TP23 means new style then? I've got 2 new here then, and a 3rd unknown at home. I'll do all 3.

I just decipher by the style of pad's used for the buttons and the layout of the back chipsets.
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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #73 on: July 28, 2008, 12:31:04 PM »
Can you give an example then? I don't think I've seen an old one, so I don't know the difference in looks. 'Thanks'...

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #74 on: July 28, 2008, 12:32:28 PM »

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #75 on: July 28, 2008, 12:33:38 PM »
OLD 'MATRIX' VERSION TOP




NEW 'CG' VERSION TOP




OLD 'MATRIX' VERSION BOTTOM



NEW 'CG' VERSION BOTTOM



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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #76 on: July 28, 2008, 12:34:48 PM »
Oh I get it. Thanks. I think I have all new then >_>;; Damn, looks like I may be heading to Gamestop soon :taunt:

EDIT: No, I lied. I've got 1 old and 1 new sitting here, I'll try it on both when I get home (probably Saturday)

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #77 on: July 28, 2008, 12:36:44 PM »
Oh I get it. Thanks. I think I have all new then >_>;; Damn, looks like I may be heading to Gamestop soon :taunt:

Yea man,  I wasnt attacking you I've as of this post tried this on 5 controllers and have had nothing like the display of rapid fire in both videos.  Lets get some input on the controller that the posted used.  Some hard core high def pictures of solder points and controller model.
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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #78 on: July 28, 2008, 12:39:57 PM »

Video It should be up in few mins..  any way i have one thing to say you got a old controller try this
if it works than good you save money. if it did not work than buy kit form this guy help him out
with his sales.
One more can i say this works i tested it on 2 diff old style controller i did not have a new style till
this morning i tested it and  it don't work on new style.


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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #79 on: July 28, 2008, 12:40:19 PM »
I edited my post, I've got an old and a new, and a 3rd controller at home. I'll try all of them. One will work. And yes I realize you weren't attacking me, it's the fact you're accusing an ADMIN of being a liar...

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #80 on: July 28, 2008, 12:48:53 PM »

Video It should be up in few mins..  any way i have one thing to say you got a old controller try this
if it works than good you save money. if it did not work than buy kit form this guy help him out
with his sales.
One more can i say this works i tested it on 2 diff old style controller i did not have a new style till
this morning i tested it and  it don't work on new style.




Also I just talked to cyberpyrot and he is taking an intrest in this.. He said we will have it working on all controllers in a few days...

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #81 on: July 28, 2008, 12:49:55 PM »
that video made me ROFL, awesome

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #82 on: July 28, 2008, 12:59:24 PM »
that video made me ROFL, awesome

I get no results with this old stlye controller that I used....I'll keep an eye on the topic and see if anyone else gets it to work like you did...  :dntknw:
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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #83 on: July 28, 2008, 01:02:01 PM »
I get no results with this old stlye controller that I used....I'll keep an eye on the topic and see if anyone else gets it to work like you did...  :dntknw:
try swapping the wires on the switch around, its easy to get it mixed up especially if it is a 4 pin tact switch which looks like it is from what i can see in the video. if it is 4 pin then instead of soldering one wire to the left pin and one wire to the right pin, then solder one the left pin, and then one to the pin below it, if that doesn't work swap it around, use different combinations.

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as shown in my amazingly drawn picture, try solder one wire to the Left pin, and then the other to the Bottom Left pin, if it doesn't work then swap them around. i personally believe that is the only reason it doesn't work for you as i don't think soldering may be the issue, just next time don't go accusing a mod is fake without having proper evidence to back you up.

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #84 on: July 28, 2008, 01:13:19 PM »
In theory this should work on all buttons....ie, making left trigger rapid fire....maybe even a B A X Y button...or LB and RB?... :dntknw:
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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #85 on: July 28, 2008, 01:19:14 PM »
alright.  I just tried this on an old style controller with a SPST switch.  It was actually one of the ones that the guy showed in his list of radioshack buttons.  I know I soldered it properly, to the middle point for the right trigger, and the ground on the 1st led, and I was usin it as 1st player, but it just wont work.  Any ideas?

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #86 on: July 28, 2008, 01:24:55 PM »
right now, i am having similar problems and I had it working less than an hour ago, try resoldering to the LED, I think that is my problem, the LED ground is such a small area to solder to

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #87 on: July 28, 2008, 01:28:32 PM »
It's attached to the led just fine, but i dunno I'll try it again just cuz

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #88 on: July 28, 2008, 01:32:38 PM »
You might have a new board.

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Re: New Rapid Fire Method (No Chip)
« Reply #89 on: July 28, 2008, 01:40:05 PM »
nope it's an old board.  TP19.  I'm sure of it.  Only weird thing is that the big chip looking thing on the back with the silver shield.  Well, mine doesn't have a silver shield, but it looks blue.  I don't know if that could have anything to do with it, but it's for sure an old board.  And I just tried resoldering it but still doesn't work

 

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